I have wondered at the persistence of this group when YouTube has 
offered, for some time now, the ability to carry on a conversation in 
video instead of text.  But it wouldn't be the same, would it?  No.  
It wouldn't be.  Because there is something unique about every 
communications medium and its effect on what is being communicated.  
And there is value in text-only correspondence.  Is that heresy for a 
videoblogger?  I don't think so.  

I see a few advantages to text-based group discussions that I don't 
really want to give up.  One is relative anonymity.  People can 
contribute angry, contentious, argumentative posts to a text-only 
group discussion to which they might not feel comfortable attaching 
their faces.  And that can be a good thing.  It can invite people to 
tell us how they really feel and to hash things out.  Video 
conversations, like live conversations, are ephemeral.  They can lose 
direction more easily than written correspondence.  Written 
communication can be searched more easily and is also easier to 
digest in quantity.  Writing forces people to think in a way that 
speaking extemporaneously to a camera does not.  Videotaped 
conversations tend to be a lot like conversations in a bar: they 
wander, they ramble, they include a lot of "aahhs" and "ummms" and 
great gaping pauses that can be insufferable unless being uttered by 
a lover in a passionate moment.  Writing forces one to focus.  
Editing is easier with written communication.  Are people really 
going to videotape themselves responding to a politically hot topic 
on this board, then go through their footage and edit for style, 
cogency and concision?  That takes a lot more work then reading over 
a paragraph and cutting unnecessary sentances or correcting grammar 
and spelling.  

In short, I don't think this group should move over to YouTube and 
become a video based conversation group.  I think something will be 
lost.  It's probable that something will be gained, too, but on 
balance I don't think it'll be worth it.  If you want to make a 
video, make a video.  The creative impulse toward video making and 
vlogging does not have to supercede what goes on here.  In fact it 
can't and won't.  I know many vloggers are making video diaries and 
experimenting with video conversations.  And that's great.  My 
advocacy of the text-based discussion forum is not a repudiation of 
those efforts.  It's an attempt to distinguish the relative 
advantages of a written medium over a video medium for the purpose 
for which this group was formed.  Would you want your exclusive means 
of conveyance to be a car?  Are there not situations in which a plane 
is better.  Are there not places only a donkey or mule can take you?

-David

--- In [email protected], "J. Rhett Aultman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> I'm also already on YouTube (freetimevlog), and I'd happily join any
> groups going.  I need that networking! :)
> 
> --
> Rhett.
> http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime
> 
> Robyn Tippins wrote:
> 
> >I'm on YouTube already, so if you set up a group and invite us I'd 
certainly
> >join you.  Of course, I'm a social networking whore.
> >
> > 
> >
> >Robyn
> >
> > 
> >
> >From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >On Behalf Of RODLI PEDERSON
> >Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 9:44 PM
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Videobloggers YouTube Group - Anyone
> >Interested?
> >
> > 
> >
> >sure i would join
> >
> >rodli
> >
> >--- In [email protected]
> ><mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com> , "Patrick Cook"
> ><patsvideoblog@> wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Hi everyone:
> >>
> >>A thought occured to me a little while ago that if there was a 
group
> >>that would probably be interested in a different kind of 
discussion
> >>group, it would be this one. And YouTube would be the place for 
it.
> >>
> >>So my question to all of you how many of you would be interested 
in
> >>such a group?
> >>
> >>What are the advantages you say?
> >>
> >>Well, the BIGGEST one would be that you would get to use your cam 
to
> >>compose posts just like you use your email editor to post here. 
The
> >>second of which is your fingers won't get worn out from all that
> >>tapping as your voice would do that in talking for about 10 
minutes or
> >>so. Plus, we could use it to help support Josh just that much 
more.
> >>
> >>Lastly we'd also get acquainted and meet other vloggers from all 
walks
> >>of life who, for one reason or another, simply prefer to do it 
only
> >>via YouTube and/or other viral video sites.
> >>
> >>Anyhow, it was just an idea I had.
> >>
> >>Thoughts? Comments? Tar? Feathers? Flames? ALL OF THE ABOVE 
(Gulp!)?
> >>
> >>Cheers :D
> >>
> >>-- 
> >>Pat Cook
> >>Denver, Colorado
> >>WEBSITES - AS MY WACKED OUT WORLD TURNS (Now In Vlog Format!) -
> >>http://asmywackedoutturns.blogspot.com/
> >>Pat's VideoCast - http://www.freewebtown.com/patsvideocast/
> >>Pat's Health & Medical Wonders VideoCast -
> >>http://patshealthmedicalwondersvideocast.blogspot.com/
> >>DIVB-TV | The Dumbass Idiots VideoBlog -
> >>    
> >>
> >http://dumbassidiots.blogspot.com/
> >  
> >
> >>MY LIVE CAM - http://patscam.camstreams.com/
> >>YouTube Channel - http://www.youtube.com/amwowttv/
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  
> >
>


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