We need more techmeme's and technorati's and google's of the video space. A LOT more.
The landscape looks like medieval europe right now with big walled off cities and not enough roads and infrastructure inbetween. There's something like 300 video sharing sites and very few if any places that are connecting them and more importantly connecting all of us inbetween. But then it took years for all the robust intermediaries to develop for blogging, and indeed they're still developing at a rapid pace. BTW, I thought the three video sharing wiki's on wikipedia "video sharing" article were a very interesting idea. Primitive, but it's awesome there's three of them. The competition and differentiation should cause them to develop rapidly. It's interesting to see the directions they are going in and there's a spark of a brilliant idea there. Maybe something big will happen. -Mike mefeedia.com mmeiser.com/blog On 2/26/07, sull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > mefeedia? ;) > > On 2/26/07, Ron Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > But that's the clever thing. > > > > it wouldn't be centralized. > > > > The big blogging sites are not a centralized community they pull > > everyone to them. The contributors run their own blogs. > > > > I understand that this list is not the 'videoblogging community', but > > this list is a driving factor in the development of videoblogging. > > Many of the people here are leaders in the industry. > > > > I just found it interesting the juxtaposition between 'transferring > > this communities values' to the you tubers and general public when > > 'this community' is doing the same thing here on this list; getting > > an inferior product and making some company money because it is 'easy'. > > > > All I know is that Daily Kos and Scoop serve hundreds of thousands of > > users and had a major impact on our political landscape over the last > > couple of years. > > > > The people on this list are capable of building a similar 'gate > > crashing' community that can challenge the corporate media and that > > needs to be done. This list ain't gonna do that. > > > > So I'll just stop talking now, and if I can keep my mouth shut, in a > > couple days this topic will be gone. > > > > Cheers, > > Ron Watson > > > > On the Web: > > http://pawsitivevybe.com > > http://k9disc.com > > http://k9disc.blip.tv > > > > On Feb 26, 2007, at 2:36 PM, sull wrote: > > > > > use gmail for mailing lists to get threading and search out of the > > > experience. > > > > > > blogs and lists work well enough. > > > whenever someone tries to centralize the so-called community, it > > > doesnt work > > > out. > > > there are more than just one reason for this. > > > also, this list isnt "the community". it just so happens to contain > > > a small > > > group of active users who give a sense of community on and offline. > > > > > > sull > > > > > > On 2/26/07, Ron Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <k9disc%40mac.com>> wrote: > > > > > > > > Threaded comments would be nice. A decent search function would > > > be as > > > > well. > > > > > > > > Community. > > > > Permanence. > > > > Activism. > > > > Organization. > > > > Education. > > > > Entertainment. > > > > > > > > Does any of that really happen on the list? > > > > > > > > And we can't even send embedded images, let alone embed video. > > > > > > > > I know that people have started wikis and other CMS apps, but these > > > > require a bit of knowledge and experience, or people have to learn > > > > something new. > > > > > > > > When I think of the hundreds of conversations that I would like to > > > > recall and/or research, hundreds of valuable threads and ideas, I > > > > have no idea where to begin with these groups. > > > > > > > > The feature set of scoop is what I think we need, and where I think > > > > we should move, especially if we are going have an impact and > > > > transfer this groups values to people. > > > > > > > > I love blip, but I'm just thinking of an independent place for > > > > videobloggers to congregate and share information. Something that > > > we, > > > > not Yahoo, create and maintain. If we want an additional feature we > > > > install it. If we have a problem we resolve it. > > > > > > > > Ron Watson > > > > > > > > On the Web: > > > > http://pawsitivevybe.com > > > > http://k9disc.com > > > > http://k9disc.blip.tv > > > > > > > > On Feb 26, 2007, at 11:46 > > > AM,[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <sdickert%40rawlingsatlantic.com><sdickert% > > > > > 40rawlingsatlantic.com>wrote: > > > > > > > > > Okay - if off Yahoo is what you desire - what are the feat you > > > want? > > > > > > > > > > Ability to email each other on a mailing list? > > > > > Community/moblogging? > > > > > Threaded comments? > > > > > Personal diaries? > > > > > Forums with threads? > > > > > > > > > > What are the features you desire? What is the problem you want to > > > > > solve? > > > > > > > > > > I think of what blip.tv offers and what blubrry.com offers. > > > What do > > > > > you specifically want? > > > > > --- > > > > > Sanford Dickert > > > > > Rawlings Atlantic Inc > > > > > (954) 323 4450 > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my treo 650 > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > > From: Ron Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <k9disc%40mac.com><k9disc%40mac.com>> > > > > > Subj: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vlogging about Vlogging - Vlogging > > > > > about Life > > > > > Date: Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:03 pm > > > > > Size: 2K > > > > > To: [email protected] > <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com><videoblogging% > > > 40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > > > > > > What are the Yahoo groups core values and how do we transmit > > > them to > > > > > > > the newbies and other folks stepping up to the camcorder? > > > > > > > > > > While I love this group and find the information to be totally > > > > > priceless, I find this juxtaposition that Steve puts up here to be > > > > > quite interesting. > > > > > > > > > > We're doing all of our serious business at the Wal-Mart of the > > > net, a > > > > > Yahoo Group. > > > > > > > > > > It's pretty ironic, really. > > > > > > > > > > All the reliance that we have on the Open Source Community, all > > > the > > > > > talk of grassroots and content creator control, and here we are > > > > > spending hours and hours on a Yahoo List. > > > > > > > > > > Talk about flushing stuff down the memory hole. > > > > > > > > > > These lists were not meant to be communities. > > > > > > > > > > They are dysfunctional on their face, and are really only suitable > > > > > for announcements and such. > > > > > > > > > > What this Yahoo Group needs is a Scoop site. > > > > > > > > > > This Yahoo group should build the dailyKos of Videoblogging. > > > > > > > > > > That's what we need to do, and that's how we're going to be > > > able to > > > > > compete with all of the MyHeavy's that are going to be coming > > > at us. > > > > > > > > > > We need a megaphone, and all we got here is a mailing list; we > > > can't > > > > > even embed images! > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, I'd be happy to pitch in wholeheartedly, although I don't > > > > > have the DB/MYSQL knowledge to get Scoop configured, I'm sure I > > > could > > > > > help dial her in. > > > > > > > > > > I don't think any of the other CMS setups are as community > > > organized > > > > > as scoop, and don't think they would be as effective as scoop > > > for a > > > > > couple thousand users. > > > > > > > > > > Check out: > > > > > http://boomantribune.com > > > > > http://dailykos.com > > > > > > > > > > If you haven't seen a scoop site. > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, just shooting my mouth off again, but I think the > > > disconnect > > > > > I felt at Steve's quoted comment is something that we must deal > > > with > > > > > if we are to mold any sort of values for newbies and the public in > > > > > general. > > > > > > > > > > I think the way to do that is to get our attention off this > > > list and > > > > > on building something. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > Ron Watson > > > > > > > > > > On the Web: > > > > > http://pawsitivevybe.com > > > > > http://k9disc.com > > > > > http://k9disc.blip.tv > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 25, 2007, at 2:48 PM, Steve Garfield wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > At the public access station where I taught video blogging for a > > > > > > number of sessions, they've done away with the stand alone video > > > > > > blogging class and now have an 'Adding Multimedia to Your Web > > > Page' > > > > > > class because people want to know how to put pictures, audio and > > > > > > video on the web to share... > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.cctvcambridge.org/?q=node/94#html > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 25, 2007, at 2:08 PM, Gena wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are other folks "teaching" vlogging such as Videomaker > > > > > > magazine > > > > > > > who calls it "Vodcasting" They started a series of > > > articles, have > > > > > > some > > > > > > > training videos and they are putting they thoughts and > > > > > > interpretations > > > > > > > on how to do it for their readers. Different views, different > > > > > > agendas. > > > > > > > > > > --- message truncated --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Sull > > > http://vlogdir.com (a project) > > > http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog) > > > http://interdigitate.com (otherly) > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > -- > Sull > http://vlogdir.com (a project) > http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog) > http://interdigitate.com (otherly) > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
