On 3/25/07, Jan McLaughlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let's use all the tagging services (Blip, Mefeedia, Delicious, Technorati) > and see which keeps track best.
It's a track-off. LOL Jan, even though videoblogging week is truely about making media, thank you for your feedback on the technical aspects. They're much appreciated. That goes for everyone. I'm sure the tech will descend to the background as we get nearer videoblogging week so we can focus on all the beautiful content. Speaking of which, I am planning on participating this year, but I may be a little off them. Being as how I can never fully remove myself from the tech. I'm going to vlog completely from the Linux operating system and using only open source tools. It's a great exuse for me to get an intimate understanding of how close vlogging is to breaching the digital divide. I do believe linux is the key. Maybe I can actuall make some screen casts. :) Geeky me. I just can't wait until we decide on a theme! I hope we've not swayed the focus, mefeedia is not sponsoring vbweek, we're not co-oping it we're just taking the opportunity to test metal and see if we can't do right by the community and fill in that gap left by services like technorati which isn't focused on media, and working with brother and sister tools like blip, dabble, delicious and others... we can track videoblogging week across any service INCLUDING youtube just as long as that service fully supports RSS 2.0 and MediaRSS. and wil I love that the majority of vloggers here care enough to craft their own vlogging experience I really hope we cast a wider net and get people participating on services from revver, to youtube, to Vimeo and others. We're even starting to work on platforms like second life to get video and audio podcast syndicated to and from sl. But all this is just good sentiment. What it comes down to now is it either works or doesnt... either people will only be able to collaborate really well within the context of great but ultimately closed serices like Flickr and Youtube... or Dabble, mefeedia and other trackers and searchers to follow will increasingly find ways to bring those sollaborative mechanisms OUT of the walled gardens and build the infrastructure to make robust interoperable collaborative and social spaces no matter where you host your vlog, post your media or otherwise. > Take half a dozen vloggers who post every day of VBW and first thing 4/8 run > 'em through the test mill with screenshots of the results We would love your continued critique. And I think it might be good for others if they're listening too. Which reminds me... I need to take a new look at SpinXpress. They seem to be on the other end of the spectrum... i.e. private, non-public media collaboration, but I'm curious if there aren't more ways to open spin express up so that there can't be more public space for intereaction with it to... i.e. does spin express do RSS? Can I subscribe to a project feed either with a private secure RSS feed or a public one? I lament that I haven't had more time to play with it. > Mefeedia's gonna have to do something outstanding to have me drag them back > into my burgeoning workflow. We'll get cha'. Thanks to frank we finally have the resources to follow through on many of the projects we've been dying to work on. :) > It kinda lost me when the formatting from Blogger --> Mefeedia stopped > translating well. I couldn't bear to look at the destruction the cross-post > wrought. We've done MANY huge improvements, special thanks to Devlon, on tag aggregation and I'm sur if you check any and all your feeds we're now grabing your tags. If we're not let us know. This does remind me though that Blogger.com 2.0 has a new mechanism for tagging posts. It's called "labels". That's a good question for Devlon. Does mefeedia handle blogger.com's new "labels"? Labels is new in blogger.com 2.0. I don't know how it's included in the RSS feeds, just that it should be included somehow because Technoratti picks up on it. > Do Mefeedia and Technorati read / recognize Blip's tags? Jan, absolutely. Blip specifies their tags in RSS and mediaRSS. Mefeedia will pick up tags just as long as they are included when you upload the video... if you are however tagging your videos after you post them to blip... say 12 or more hours later and mefeedia has already crawled your blip feed there is a chance we may miss them as I don't believe we re check old posts for new tags. This is typical of the way RSS works though. The question is for blip. If you are tagging on blip and then cross posting to your blog do they include tags in the cross post using the technorati proposed rel="tag" satandard? I've recently been talking a lot about how cross posting from blip (and other services) is the weak link in the meta-info chain. Blip has all sorts of great meta info such as geolocation info, thumbnails, alternate video formats like flash, and so much more.... but when that information is cross posted to your blog the majority of that meta info gets stripped out and doesn't get in your orginal videoblog feed because of a lack of standards for marking up meta info withing the blog post. There exists only a mishmash of incomplete "semantic markup" microformats for specifying metadata in blog posts. You know these because you as bloggers may use them all the time. rel="tag" rel="enclosure" The problem is there is a whole lot more metainformation that is un-adressed in these standards. There is now way to specify. -thumbnails -alternate enlosure formats like flash, or windows media -geo-location information And a whole host of other information that can make vlogs more collaborative. As always, thanks for the feedback jan, -Mike > Jan > > On 3/25/07, Devlon Duthie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hey sull, > > > > That wasn't my point, and (that time) I wasn't even touting Mefeedia. > > > > I just remember all the fuss last year when technorati wasn't keeping up > > with the tags...and that I missed the discussion, was curious to hear > > what wonderous things had been discussed. > > > > Since we figured there might be a lapse in tag tracking this year, we > > have spent a bit of effort to see if we can keep up with > > Videobloggingweek....and some of that effort has been in rounding out > > the tags that we parse from the rss post. So, the short answer, is we > > track tags as they come in from the posts and also you can tag clips at > > Mefeedia. > > > > ...and you don't have to enlighten me on how this community works sull, > > I know all too well :) > > > > Thanks, > > Devlon > > > > > > > > sull wrote: > > > I'd love to see more people get behind and support mefeedia. > > > But this "community" doesnt work that way (not even the active 8%). > > > And nor should they nec be groupies to a broad interpretation of Net > > Video > > > Culture. > > > It's not easy sustaining a community of people solely on the premise of > > > technology adoption. > > > > > > Still, mefeedia will be involved with vbw07 in some way or another... > > > Lists, Guides, tags.... > > > > > > Remind me, does mefeedia track tags from blog posts or do you have to > > tag > > > stuff locally on mefeedia site? > > > > > > Sull > > > > > > On 3/24/07, Devlon Duthie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> Did I miss the discussion on depending on technorati this year for > > >> tracking our tags? > > >> > > >> -Devlon > > >> > > >> Josh Leo wrote: > > >> > > >>> Ok folks, we are one week away from Videobloggingweek2007 > > >>> > > >>> I usually don't do themes for videoblogging week, but i know it helps > > >>> > > >> other > > >> > > >>> people so lets knock out some ideas for themes adn then pick them. So > > >>> > > >> far > > >> > > >>> all I have seriously heard was the 7 deadly sins > > >>> > > >>> we have agreed on the technorati tag, now we need to nail out some > > other > > >>> details. > > >>> > > >>> so what do we want videoblogging week to look like this year? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > -- > The Faux Press - better than real > http://fauxpress.blogspot.com > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
