Can I ask for clarification on who you are refering to? Because its got a bit confusing because we were talking about pyro.tv but then I started talking about network2.tv, and the quote about 'link to your original website' is from network2 rather than pyro.
Sorry for confusing the issue! Steve Elbows --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ron Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "We build a page for each producer's > > show, complete with your show name, a link to your original website, > > links to your RSS feed (for an audience to subscribe), and links to > > the original media." > > I think that is an interesting statement. > > My 'original' website links to my RSS feed, and links to my > 'original' media. > > The only problem is that they are not respecting my 'original' media. > Or my original site. Or my RSS feed (or at least Steve's which has a > proper CC in the feed...). > > They are creating new media with my content. That's uncool. > > I have yet to ask them to remove our show from their listings, as I > have yet to do with Magnify.net, which I consider to be the same > disrespectful business model of Pyro and My Heavy. > > These asshats need to start playing by some respectful rules. Just > because they went out and whored themselves for big VC money doesn't > give them the right to slurp up our content and give us some song and > dance about how they really are helping us. > > For crying out loud! Is it that difficult to give a link and not to > re-encode content, and to drive traffic to the original site? Of > course it's not. > > They simply have zero respect for independent content creators. And > that's the real rub, isn't it? > > I mean is anyone here not offended by the total lack of respect that > they give all of us? > > I'd like to see a my heavy, pyro, magnify business model that was > scraping corporate media's content. > > Cheers, > Ron Watson > > On the Web: > http://pawsitivevybe.com > http://k9disc.com > http://k9disc.blip.tv > > > On Apr 15, 2007, at 9:17 AM, Steve Watkins wrote: > > > Aha, interesting, I hadnt noticed the permalink issue. > > > > Their publishers page still says "We build a page for each producer's > > show, complete with your show name, a link to your original website, > > links to your RSS feed (for an audience to subscribe), and links to > > the original media." so hopefully this is just some oversight when > > they redesigned their site - was it working as advertised in the past? > > > > Hmm I said I wouldnt still be ranting about network2 in 6 months, but > > that was based on no new violations of creators rights. Still, I feel > > more than a little awkward being in this territory again. > > > > I had hoped that the strong networking by network2's Chris Brogan, the > > participation of some vloggers in that VON and other meetups, and the > > participation by some members of this community in the network2 > > competition, meant there were exceedingly strong channels of > > communication between creators and network2, and that therefore this > > sort of thing was unlikely to happen. > > > > What do people think about them now including easily cut&pasteable > > 'permalinks' for your videos, which are permalinks to the network2 > > page for the show, and also their embedded player, which I havent > > tried yet but suspect will be another feature designed to drive > > traffic to their site and not to the content creators. > > > > Cheers > > > > Steve Elbows > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steve Garfield <steve@> > > wrote: > > > > > > It matters. > > > > > > I just emailed them to fix it. > > > > > > No link back to permalink of blog entry ( it's in the feed ) > > > > > > http://network2.tv/episode/2832833/ > > > > > > No display of CC license ( it's in the feed ) > > > > > > http://network2.tv/episode/2832833/ > > > > > > --Steve > > > > > > On Apr 14, 2007, at 7:16 PM, Steve Watkins wrote: > > > > > > > if sites like > > > > network2 are opt-in now, then I suppose it doesnt amtter so > > much if > > > > they dont show creative commons feed info? > > > > > > -- > > > Steve Garfield > > > http://SteveGarfield.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >