Id agree with that. There are clearly circumstances where doing is important. And for example, as a non-vlogger, if I spent my time ridiculing the efforts of everyone who 'does', telling people that there stuff isnt a vlog, saying its all rubbish or hatever, then I would be on very thin ice (but then so would a vlogger saying the same stuff I guess, but it may be a little easier to take from a fellow vlogger)
It would also be far too easy for me, with a well paid day job, to sit around moaning about vloggers selling out, which wouldnt be fair because I have the luxury of not needing to associate earning with vlogging. Likewise its easy for me to criticise this wikipedia situation because Im not one of the people who've spent so much time and energy making edits, only to find them removed by Pat. Claerly frustration has been building for a long time and its all come out in a concentrated blast of emotion and the desire to end the situation. So Im not siding with Pat, I just assume that some of his edits have merit, and I always get a sickly feeling when the mob takes effect here. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Josh Leo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree that a person doesn't have to be a vlogger to have an interest int > he topic, of course it may lend more insight into the issue. and c'mon, Pat > did videoblog, and quite well at that. He helped a lot at Vloggercon and is > no less of a vlogger than myself... > > There is, however something to be said for the "doers" vs the "sayers" in > other areas... for example, someone who says "coffee farmers need to get > paid fair wages" but then chooses to not drink fair trade coffee... "sayers" > must make sure that their actions don't make them hypocritical...much like > those who say community and support is important here but continue to > degrade, insult, and belittle others on this list... > > p.s. my previous post about the other wikipedia entries was not an attack at > Pat, but the practice of throwing the baby out with the bathwater... > > On 5/2/07, Steve Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Long Live wikipedia! Death to elites! Down with any strategy that aims > > to diminish the opinions of others based on who they are and what they > > do, rather than the merit of what they are saying. > > > > Cheers (not) > > > > Steve Elbows > > > > > > > > > -- > Josh Leo > > www.JoshLeo.com > www.WanderingWestMichigan.com > www.SlowLorisMedia.com > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >