--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well in the case of Joost its because peer2peer is at the heart of > their system and theres no standard way to achieve that in web > browsers yet. I dont think Id even think of Joost as an aggregator to > be honest, its much closer to the old TV model.
I agree - i don't really see them as an aggregator. More like another player / p2p device with some search and share elements. > > The other reason people want a desktop (or device-based) aggregator is > the idea of the videos being downloaded to local storage for them > automatically. Thats definately one of the things that got people on > this list and elsewhere excited about the likes of fireant, and > podcasting was pretty much born out of this stuff. Agreed - that was point #3 below - Provide an easy mechanism to enjoy that content on whatever device / player the consumers and creators want. After you have found what you want and organized it, you put that RSS feed / 1-click subscribe to your player(s) of choice and the videos get downloaded to Fireant, Democracy, iTunes, Joost (maybe in the future - we will see), XBox 360, Nokia phone, etc. etc... The goal is that, eventually, you should be able to "1-click send to all my devices/players". You could completely program your entire evening's entertainment from work. Would require some of the device manufactures to adopt some standard, open interfaces, unfortunately. > > I like both approaches. For finding stuff Id rather use mefeedia and > similar, and if I ever find shows I want to stick with, I'll use a > desktop aggregator or more recently the nokia podcasting thing on my > phone. Agreed. :) > > Cheers > > Steve Elbows > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Frank Sinton" <frank@> wrote: > > > > I like Joost, but the question i keep asking about these "players": > > Why aggregate on the Desktop / Player? It just feels like the player > > will eventually be ubiquitous - you will play your media on whatever > > device you are currently on - Desktop, iPod, XBox 360, Car TV, > > Airplane TV - whenever you want access to what you want to watch, > > you will be able to get it. > > > > Web-based aggregation just makes so much more sense if you look at > > it from the perspective of what aggregators should do best: > > > > 1) Help people discover great content, and help content creators > > gain audiences. > > 2) Give people tools to organize and share that content with others. > > 3) Provide an easy mechanism to enjoy that content on whatever > > device / player the consumers and creators want. > > > > Our belief is that the aggregators that do these three things well > > will provide value and rise up above others. It just makes so much > > more sense for this to be web-based and be independent of the type > > of content (viral, vlogs, MSM). The future will be about people > > enjoying content from CNN and Rocketboom, Scrubs and Ask a Ninja, > > The Office and Goodnight Burbank. It is very similar to how i read > > news today - Wall Street Journal and PaidContent.org, Business 2.0 > > and TechCrunch, etc... > > > > Andrew - fell free to give me a call if you want to discuss. 310-927- > > 7841. > > > > Thanks, > > -Frank > > > > Frank Sinton > > CEO, Mefeedia > > frank@ > > 310-927-7841 (cell) > > Y: fsinton > > Skype: fsinton > > > > http://www.mefeedia.com - Discover, Collect, and Enjoy great videos > > and podcasts > > Our blog: http://mefeedia.com/blog > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Rhodes" <srhodes@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Well, Joost had initial buzz because of their previous record > > with Skype. > > > > > > And that buzz helped lead to a lot of deals. > > > > > > One question will be how much promotion those partners will give > > joost (as > > > opposed to their other partnerships and own sites), so it could > > potentially > > > move beyond everyone who wanted an invite because of buzz (and > > scarcity). > > > > > > And how well they can scale. People used to tv just working > > > aren't going to come back if joost crashes their computer > > (particularly > > > if they can get the same content elsewhere). > > > > > > They also need better information on the shows people might not > > > be familiar with. > > > > > > Another is if the advertising will be more creative than other > > efforts. > > > > > > For an ad based model to work, at the very least they need to > > better > > > understand > > > the medium. When I watch a Fox show on myspace, they show the > > same damn > > > ad I'm not interested in in the first place four times. So I just > > hit mute > > > for 30 seconds > > > and read (or do something else during the ad). > > > > > > Ofcourse, I usually do the same thing when I'm watching old > > fashioned tv, > > > but... > > > > > > -- > > > Steve Rhodes > > > > > > http://ari.typepad.com > > > > > > http://tigerbeat.vox.com blogs > > > > > > http://flickr.com/photos/ari/ photos > > > > > > http://del.icio.us/tigerbeat interesting articles & sites > > > > > > http://twitter.com/tigerbeat > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > >
