i think for many people, tossing videos up all over the place is just a way
to get started.
the value may come when you as a content creator find your voice/style/focus
and start to get scattered subscribers or just awareness and attention which
can gradually build up over a year or 2.

in other words, value doesnt always have immediacy attached to it.

so using the youtube etc despite bad terms can still be ok for many
creators.
others will never want to give away any content with undesirable terms.
as a rule of thumb, i agree with jay...  but surely there are many many
videos that you can put out there that you can let go of.

sull

On 5/17/07, Frank Sinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Doesn't have to be one or the other. Just trying to see what people
> think the value of a YouTube viewer or subscriber is versus someone
> who has viewed and subscribed at your vlog.
>
> > Why give Youtube so much power?
> > as we know in the web 2.0 world, the barrier to entry is a server.
> >
> > jay
>
> BUT you are giving YouTube MUCH power by uploading a video to their
> site and thus, agreeing to (quote for YouTube TOS):
>
> ".... However, by submitting the User Submissions to YouTube, you
> hereby grant YouTube a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free,
> sublicenseable and transferable license to use, reproduce, distribute,
> prepare derivative works of, display, and perform the User Submissions
> in connection with the YouTube Website and YouTube's (and its
> successor's) business, including without limitation for promoting and
> redistributing part or all of the YouTube Website (and derivative
> works thereof) in any media formats and through any media channels."
>
> I'm 99.99% sure MSM has NOT agreed to these TOS and negotiated their
> own "partner" TOS, so why have vloggers? Again, leads me to the questions:
>
> 1) What is the value of a YouTube viewer and subscriber .
> 2) For those vloggers who have posted to YouTube, what value have you
> seen?
>
> -Frank
>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Here I am....
> > http://jaydedman.com
> >
> > Check out the latest project:
> > http://pixelodeonfest.com/
> > Webvideo festival this June!!!!
> >
>
>  
>


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