sounds good roxanne :-)
btw - I wasn't suggesting a point system at all (um. ick :) -- just a checklist. and really, just a little reformatting, with some links to appropriate docs, as a starting point. after the pixelodeon frenzy, perhaps we can write up a summary and provide some use cases. peace, lisa > Lisa, > > I've added comments inline below. Thank you for your thoughtful comments! > > Aloha, Rox > > On 6/5/07, Lisa Rein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> Hey Roxanne, >> > <snip> > >> OK >> >> RE: http://www.barefeetstudios.com/aggregation/ >> >> Hey this doc looks like a great start -- but could use re-org and a few >> explanatory sections - in terms of having a summary, lists, etc., to >> make >> the spec a little easier to read and understand. > > I very much appreciate your feedback. FWIW, the html on that page came > straight from MS Word - nuf said! The PDF reads a little easier, and > yes, there is plenty of room for improvement. Let's see what kind of > feedback comes in here over the next 24-48 hours, then I would love to > let you place your loving hands on it so we have an improved version > for Pixelodeon discussion. > > >> Also, I think it's very important to consider this more of a "wish >> list," >> in the short term, for content owners and aggregators alike (albeit a >> good >> starting point for a "score card" of sorts in the future.) > >> My point being that, to be fair, many of these "best practices" are >> actually very complex features that could literally take months or >> years >> to implement correctly. > > I'd like the group to debate this; many feel that there are ample RSS > standards in place to accommodate most of what we have proposed. > Techies?? Please weigh in on this. > > >> I'm not that worried about Mefeedia -- we seemed to have a good "score" >> when I went through the little checklist, for the most part, so I am >> pleased... > > Congrats.. :-) > The idea of a point system has been in the back of my mind too. IMO > that would require considerably more work (and agreement) plus a > fair-minded panel to rate each aggregator. I think it's a great plan > for version 2, if we can get v1 into motion. I also envision creating > a master list of aggregators with some sort of indication of > pass-fail, so we are on the same page with this idea. > > I don't expect anyone to "score" perfect; the idea is to move > performance standards forward into tangible form. And the caveats are > really meant to both provide wiggle room and cover the nuance of a > particular service. For example, a lot of people host at blip. Blip > shares movie-based ad revenue but not the display ad revenue that > wraps media on the page. (I am pretty sure I am accurate on that.) > OTOH, they host (not just aggregate) our media and provide so many > value-adds. They also qualify as having a "direct relationship" with > the CO, which also means anything is negotiable. > >> But it was a little confusing going through the checklist, the way it >> was >> formatted... >> >> so I would be happy to offer my services as spec editor (for a little >> clean up now, and while making updates in the future) -- so we can add >> a >> summary, resources, links to working examples, etc., to make this a >> nice, >> professinal looking spec that will have to be taken seriously by >> businesses and can hopefully become a real pseudo facto standard for >> years >> to come. >> >> (I'm a w3c spec wonk from years back, if that explains why I would >> volunteer for such an arduous task. i'm sick. i actually like writing >> specs :-) > > You're on! I'll send you raw files off list tomorrow and look forward > to your mastery Lisa. > > >> When we have those specific details and a clear guidelines for >> implementation in place, I believe more companies and vloggers will >> feel >> better about signing on to support it too. > > Agreed. > > >> >> Thanks! >> >> lisa >> >> http://www.mefeedia.com/blog >> >> >> > dear roxanne, >> > as soon as you are done with the document, let us please know: i will >> > translate it to spanish. >> > and the submission form could also be available in spanish (and other >> > languages); don't you think so? >> > this is an exciting initiative. >> > besos. >> > >> > >> > On 6/5/07, Roxanne Darling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Sunday 1 pm at Pixelodeon >> >> http://pixelodeonfest.com/schedule/ >> >> >> >> We'll be having a discussion on this topic in the DIY theatre. The >> >> goal is to finalize version 1 of a document that we can sign on to >> and >> >> begin to establish some performance standards. It is applicable to >> >> audio and video content. >> >> >> >> In preparation for Pixelodeon, I have gone through the many posts on >> >> this topic and the fine summaries created by Mike Hudack of blip.tv >> >> and Todd Cochrane of GeekNewsCentral and creating a working draft. >> >> >> >> Please look at the draft here: >> >> http://www.barefeetstudios.com/aggregation/ >> >> >> >> We have also had our programmer create an online database with >> >> submission form so that as soon as we have it polished, we can all >> add >> >> our names to the document as signatories. A page will display all >> the >> >> signers, updating in real time. I think the more of us we have >> backing >> >> this up, and spreading the word in our own networks, the more we can >> >> bring to bear in the marketplace. >> >> >> >> I am working on options to live stream our discussion from >> Pixelodeon >> >> so you "need not be present to win - I mean speak." This may be >> >> limited by our bandwidth, but stay tuned and we will at least set up >> a >> >> person or two on skype who can be relaying inbound questions and >> >> comments. If you want to get the latest real time updates please >> >> follow me on Twitter: >> >> http://www.twitter.com/roxannedarling >> >> >> >> Jay had a great idea that once we have this in place, it can be sent >> >> directly to an aggregator in violation, and we can even have >> >> designated representatives to meet with each company. Mike at blip >> has >> >> been bearing the brunt of this work; a document like this with >> >> hundreds (thousands??) of signers can only strengthen our position. >> >> >> >> We've envision the online signin/support petition as being open to >> all >> >> people - not just media creators, so our base of support is wide >> open. >> >> Once we have this in place, then we can start tracking and blogging >> >> about those who play nicely and those who don't, to bring our >> >> collective influence to bear out there. >> >> >> >> Aloha, >> >> Rox >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Roxanne Darling >> >> "o ke kai" means "of the sea" in hawaiian >> >> 808-384-5554 >> >> http://www.twitter.com/roxannedarling >> >> >> >> http://www.beachwalks.tv >> >> http://www.barefeetshop.com >> >> http://www.barefeetstudios.com >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > http://www.istalkr.com/users/pepa >> > >> > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > >> > >> >> Lisa Rein >> >> http://videobloggingweek.mefeedia.com/ >> http://onlisareinsradar.com >> http://www.mefeedia.com >> http://www.lisarein.com >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Roxanne Darling > "o ke kai" means "of the sea" in hawaiian > 808-384-5554 > http://www.twitter.com/roxannedarling > > http://www.beachwalks.tv > http://www.barefeetshop.com > http://www.barefeetstudios.com > Lisa Rein http://videobloggingweek.mefeedia.com/ http://onlisareinsradar.com http://www.mefeedia.com http://www.lisarein.com
