Hi everyone: On 6/11/07, Markus Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jun 11, 2007, at 6:39 PM, Patrick Cook wrote: > > > When I say > > "anarchist" groups, I mean groups who openly admit they have NO > > INTENTION > > WHATEVER of complying with the law while they conduct their event) > > and give > > them as much bad publicity as possible. > > Hi Pat, > > Well you certainly popped up with an interesting topic :) > > I see a few issues here: > > 1) public safety issues can result in new laws aimed at specific groups > (e.g., bike laws in NYC) Sometimes these laws are introduced without > due process and are just used to arrest people and then drop charges > long after the event (and after a long hassle, confiscation of property > and possibly legal costs).
True BUT if groups and people who are hell bent on breaking the law were to STAY AWAY, they wouldn't BE in a position to be arrested in the first place, no? > 2) this approach seems a bit like convicting people before they commit > a crime. Stating that one does not intend to comply with the law is > not the same as saying you are going to break it and that's not the > same as actually breaking it. Not if they have a website or plans already outlined elsewhere in advance. I do believe it's called PLOTTING the crime. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong on that. > 3) labeling this specific set of people as "anarchists" sounds a bit > like stereotyping. I know a lot of folks who think of themselves as > "anarchists" but may not agree with the statements of actions of the > groups that concern you. I think we need to be careful about labels. True BUT do you think the groups whose sole purpose is to come here to Denver and break the law (As they call it "protesting" mind you) are gonna care? Of course not. Look at Seattle during WTO '99. There were protesters crying out that free speech CAN be expressed WITHOUT destroying someone else's property, livelihood or business (Something that NO ONE has the right to do), WHICH IS TRUE. Not even you can deny that. > how do we deal with these and other aspects about bad publicity? It's not "about" bad publicity. It's USING bad publicity to expose the rogue groups whose sole goal is to come to Denver during the DNC and give the rest of us PEACEFUL political activists (And ultimately the city) a black eye in the eyes of the mainstream world. That's the mission. Cheers :D -- Pat Cook Denver, Colorado WEBSITES - AS MY WACKED OUT WORLD TURNS - http://pchamster.livejournal.com/ PAT'S REAL DEAL VIDEO BLOG - http://patsrealdeal.livejournal.com/ Pat's Health & Medical Wonders VideoCast - http://patshealthmedicalwondersvideocast.blogspot.com/ MY LIVE CAM - http://patscam.camstreams.com/ YouTube Channel - http://www.youtube.com/amwowttv/ THE PAT COOK SHOW - http://www.livevideo.com/thepatcookshow
