While the intent to try to control or prevent those who would be
violent may be laudable and I understand your desire to police from
within (something most other groups like doctors and lawyers find
impossible to do), I think the actual attempts will be fraught with
trouble.

We cannot control other people.  We can influence them. It creates a
sticky wicket for the peace-able among us.

And so I would encourage you to get your message out there as loud as
possible and attract as many people to your point of view as possible,
and be able to perhaps demonstrate by the numbers, that the majority
of new media or the voters or the videobloggers are committed to
nonviolence or whatever. (Are we?  I don't know actually.)

Any time any of us attempt to speak for or restrain the acts of others
without their express buy on, then we are simply doing the same things
we reject when others attempt to do that to us.  It's one of those one
way streets that makes sense when you go down it forward, but really
doesn't makes sense when you turn around and look at it from the other
direction.

You meanwhile have a passion and a vehicle and go to town with it and
see what happens!

Aloha,

Rox



On 6/12/07, Patrick Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Hi everyone:
>
>  On 6/11/07, Gena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  > The right to freedom of speech is non-negotiable. It can't be withheld
>  > due to the potential threat of violence.
>
>  Ohh?? So does that mean that people shouldn't be allowed to commute
>  to and from work and home in Downtown Denver because the place where
>  the convention will be housed is ALSO in Downtown Denver (Along with
>  the many free speech areas)?
>
>  One of the local city council members took the approach that one's
>  right to commute to and from work and home is non-negotiable too. It
>  may not be in the Constitution or any other legal document, but people
>  shouldn't be FORCED TO TEMPORARILY RELOCATE or take time off from work
>  just so a bunch of people can excercise their right to free speech
>  while a bunch of other people turn the city upside down and inside out
>  on national, if not international, television.
>
>  And you know something? He's got a valid point. People SHOULD NOT
>  have to temporarily relocate or take time off from work just so a
>  bunch of people can excercise their right to free speech while a bunch
>  of other people turn the city upside down and inside out on national,
>  if not international, television. It's just not right. How would YOU
>  like it if you had to put your life on hold because of this? You
>  probably wouldn't like it too well, would you?
>
>  There's got to be a common ground. It's there alright. It's just a
>  process of finding it.
>
>  > I have and continue to have serious disagreements with the policies of
>  > the current administration. To some in this country that in and of
>  > itself is act of treason. I'm not an anarchist. I would not and will
>  > not condone any acts of destruction of personal or private property.
>
>  Hey, I'm with you 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000%
>  (If not more). :)
>
>  > By the criteria you present my presence at the convention would be
>  > disallowed. I cannot be an agent to assist in political profiling of
>  > citizens based on group affiliation.
>
>  If you have no intention of breaking the law, why would you fear
>  being, as you put it, "disallowed"?
>
>  > I appreciate the problems Denver will have concerning public safety.
>  > It will not be easy to balance the rights of citizens with the
>  > multiplicity of people who want to do harm, both foreign and domestic.
>  >
>  > I am only speaking for myself here. I don't believe using a blog/vlog
>  > to prevent another person's from expressing their political freedom of
>  > speech or to address concerns to their government is appropriate.
>
>  Okay. What do you think IS an appropriate medium or method to accomplish
> this?
>
>  > Challenge, yes. Dispute? You Betcha. Profile and prevent other
>  > expression based on political affiliation?
>  >
>  > No.
>
>  Well then, consider it a challenge. A challenge for the groups to
>  explain their intentions in case they've somehow been misinterpreted.
>  If the groups can't explain themselves, then I guess the original
>  interpretation will just have to stand on their own merits (Whatever
>  they're worth), now will they?
>
>  > > Cheers :D
>
>  --
>  Pat Cook
>  Denver, Colorado
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