No one app in particular, was mostl thinking of the encoding side of
things at the moment. eg if a windows or mac user asks 'how can i
encode into this format' there needs to be a nice easy one sentence
answer, nice straightforward encoders that have a simple GUI,
command-line stuff forever condemns formats to obscurity. If there are
such apps alredy please point me in the right direction, last time I
tried I gave up, so Ive still never actually seen or made an ogg file
in my life.

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In [email protected], "Charles Iliya Krempeaux"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello Steve,
> 
> Just out of curiosity... what specific applications would want to Ogg
> Theora to be supported in?
> 
> -- 
>     Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. <http://ChangeLog.ca/>
> 
> 
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> 
> On 6/13/07, Steve Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Ta for the info. Ive been reading up on this. The html 5 video thing
> >  should really make a difference at some point in the future, if it
> >  survives the draft process and is done in a flexible enough way. I
> >  note that so far it is proposed that ogg is the format that html 5
> >  browsers should definately support, but that they are free to use
> >  other formats as well.
> >
> >  I need theora to be supported in more mac & windows end-user apps for
> >  me to be more positive about the format. Right now it seems
relatively
> >  unknown beyond the linux community, which is a shame. Also gotta be a
> >  tiny bit worried that its not definately immune from patent/licencing
> >  claims, if it catches on then all sorts of companies will scrutinize
> >  it closely to see if it uses any methods which they have patents
to cover.
> >
> >  Cheers
> >
> >  Steve Elbows
> >
> >  --- In [email protected], "Charles Iliya Krempeaux"
> >  <supercanadian@> wrote:
> >  >
> >  > Hello Steve,
> >  >
> >  > As a side note...
> >  >
> >  > Opera has already implemented built-in Ogg Theora support a preview
> >  > version of their browser.
> >  >
> >  > So, on that preview version of Opera, the <video> element will work
> >  > with Ogg Theora video.
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > See ya
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > --
> >  >     Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. <http://ChangeLog.ca/>
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >                   All the Vlogging News on One Page
> >  >                          http://vlograzor.com/
> >  >
> >
> >  > On 6/13/07, Steve Watkins <steve@> wrote:
> >  > >
> >  > > Greetings,
> >  > >
> >  > >  Cheers for the info. I would like to support Ogg Theora.
> >  Unfortunately
> >  > >  , and for a variety of reasons, it just hasnt caught on
enough so far
> >  > >  to make me take it at all seriously at this stage. All the
hardware
> >  > >  that has appeared in recent years that supports mpeg4 and
h264 is not
> >  > >  helping.
> >  > >
> >  > >  Being free from patent woes, and quite good, is tragically
not enough
> >  > >  to ensure adoption. Anyway I will go and study the html5
stuff in
> >  more
> >  > >  detail, I hope it points to a brighter future for theora, but I
> >  remain
> >  > >  highly skeptical.
> >  > >
> >  > >  Cheers
> >  > >
> >  > >  Steve Elbows
> >  > >
> >  > >  --- In [email protected], "Charles Iliya Krempeaux"
> >  > >  <supercanadian@> wrote:
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  > Hello Steve,
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  > On 6/13/07, Steve Watkins <steve@> wrote:
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  > A new <video> element has already been defined in HTML5...
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  > http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#video
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  > And like it is specified that browsers support JPG's, PNG's,
> >  and GIF's
> >  > >  > with the <img> element, we have Ogg Theora for the <video>
element
> >  > >  > (because of patent reasons).
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  > For a better description of why Ogg Theora (and not H.264)
read
> >  this...
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  >
> >  http://maketelevision.com/log/why_ogg_theora_matters_for_internet_tv
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  > See ya
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  > --
> >  > >  >     Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. <http://ChangeLog.ca/>
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  >                   All the Vlogging News on One Page
> >  > >  >                          http://vlograzor.com/
> >  > >  >
>


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