Yeah I didn't mean to suggest he isn't *known* but having been seen 
by an audience of 20,000 isn't exactly *famous* in a traditional 
sense. My larger point is that fame is relative. If I were to ask my 
co-workers or my family who he was, it's very likely that none if 
any would have heard of him. 

On the other hand I did hear some random guy talking about Ask a 
Ninja in the coffee shop the other day ... that was sorta surprising 
to me. 

Bill Streeter
LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
http://lofistl.com
http://billstreeter.net

--- In [email protected], "Stephanie Bryant" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ze Frank was the closing keynote speaker at the annual STC 
conference this
> year, approx. 20,000 attendees of professional technical writers. 
So, um,
> he's *known.*
> 
> --Stephanie
> 
> On 6/20/07, Bill Streeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I think Markus was talking about Times person of the year issue 
where
> > they named the person of the year as "you."
> >
> > Are your friends familuar with YouTube? That's videoblogging. 
When you
> > talk about things like "most famous" etc. Those are hard things 
to
> > quantify. There are Videobloggers like Zefrank who is very 
famous in
> > some circles but is virtually unknown in others. And he never 
did put
> > his stuff on YouTube and yet the most popular YouTubers probably 
get
> > way more views than he ever did--and it's very likely that few 
on this
> > list had ever heard of them. What I'm saying is "fame" is 
relative.
> > Some of us are "famous" to a few--which sounds like an oxymoron, 
but
> > it's true in a way. But thats the world we live in now--even
> > conventional definitions of what seem like simple things 
like "fame"
> > don't really mean anything anymore. So what I'm saying is that 
your
> > question isn't an easy one to answer. To someone not familuar 
with
> > internet video none of us doing this is famous in the least.
> >
> > Bill Streeter
> > LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
> > http://lofistl.com
> > http://billstreeter.net
> >
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "oovooworld" <simon@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > Well yes I'd heard I was mentioned but I was hoping someone 
else was
> > > kicking around with half the skill...its a lot of pressure to 
live
> > > with you know...<sigh>
> > >
> > > I don't know how I missed that issue of Time. Was it the same 
one
> > that
> > > had the article reviewing George Bush's new pioneering green 
policy?
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> Stephanie Bryant
> Author, Videoblogging for Dummies
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.mortaine.com/
> 
> 
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