Great posts, Dave & Bill :) We're all coming from the same place... I guess we wouldn't all still be doing it, if we weren't. These long, thoughtful & funny responses are good for the soul :o)
Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ On 5 Jul 2007, at 22:15, David Meade wrote: I've been vlogging for over two years now, and I don't have a big following. There were some people at pixelodeon who were kind enough to pretend they'd heard of me though, and that's good enough for me - Casey McKinnon talked to me ... vlogging mission accomplished. :-) For the record, feed burner tells me that my "for all time" average is 62 subscribers ... 12 are from MeFeedia, and at least 3-5 total are probably me. :-) (one on my PC, one on my Mac, ... etc) My 'Reach' according to Feedburner (subscribers that area actually clicking on the links and what not) is on average 18 or so which (given that 3-5 are probably me) feels about right. (For the past 4 months of data), Blip tells me I have 62 posts with 39,320 views ... but I'm not sure I believe it. According to Blip, my most popular video is apparently "Hawaiian Shave Ice" (http://www.davidmeade.com/archives/58) with over 6,200 views ... but I didn't think it was all that special ... I'm tempted to believe something is off with those stats. (but why look a gift-horse-ego-boost in the mouth?) I apparently - according to blip - have: 6 other posts with > 1,000 views (and I think I believe that - but not sure) 5 others between 900 - 1000 views 12 between 600-900 views 15 between 400-600 views 8 between 200-400 views 14 with <200 views ... but again this is over a very long period of time and is no doubt at least somewhat inflated by my being 'self subscribed'. (I also have a nasty habit of watching my own videos on my website rather than from the local copy ... so some of those blip views are me too). also ... my early work was all WMV, so I'm wondering if there isn't some inflated numbers due to the initial wonkyness of microsoft bits clients messin' up the stats everywhere. I have 19 friends on MeFeedia, 11 of which have returned the favor. I think I value comments the most. I don't get alot of comments on my stuff ... but I'm pretty bad about commenting on other blogs, so I try to be forgiving of that. I try not to look at stats too often because a) Half the time I don't believe them b) I've always loved the 'that stuff doesn't matter' aspect of long-tail publishing. c) When I allow myself to care about stats I tend to think of them as 'ratings' and that's both depressing and discouraging. It tends to inspire my making FEWER videos for fear I wont or cant "do them well enough". d) Casey McKinnon pretended to know me, so I've pretty much already succeeded. ... I am however gettin' ready to start a new vlog, and I expect to have HUGE numbers on that one. :-P - Dave On 7/5/07, Rupert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm on a roll, today. > > I'd like to suggest that more of us should try to be open about how > many views we get. I mean, not *all* of us, obviously. There are > those of us who won't want to say for commercial or other reasons. > > But I keep hearing people worrying about how few views they're > getting. And I'm sure that part of their worry is that other people > are getting far more. And I'm not sure that that's true. I'd bet > any money that 99% of the people on this list get two figure views > for all their videos combined per day. And I'd bet the majority get > single figure views per day. > > This is important in the discussion of monetizing videoblogging, too, > perhaps. > > I think Youtube has distorted expectations - by its nature, it > attracts clusters of people to feast on certain featured & popular > videos in a way that's quite different to what a lot of us are > doing. And as Mark Day said last week, even on Youtube the really > big view numbers are rare. > > Personally, I don't think that getting just a few people per day or > per week is bad at all. Your films are still being seen by more > people than they would if you were taking them to a local film night, > or showing them in a local gallery, which was the only forum for them > before the web. > > And you're actually connecting with the people who are watching them, > in a way that wouldn't happen otherwise. And probably in a more > profound way than you would if you had 1000 people all wanting to > talk to you. > > You don't have to join in this game - it's not Truth or Dare! - but > to get the ball rolling, here are my own stats. > > They're a bit weird compared to most, probably, because I only > started Twittervlog 3 months ago, I've made 89 videos in that time > and I pimp it all the time on Twitter - that must be where I get most > of my views. > > I feel it's been successful on a personal level - I've met all sorts > of great people and it's been a lot of fun. But featured status on > Youtube - or even on Blip - it ain't. > > I have posted 89 films. With 14,000 views in total. That's an > average of 150 per film. I figure - what? - half of those have > actually watched the video to the end? > > 25 videos ( a third of them) have less than 100 views in total > > another 57 videos (almost two thirds) have between 100 and 250 > > and only 7 have more than 250 - all of these have been featured > somewhere, like The End of Pixelodeon, or the Vlog Deathmatch video. > > The Vlog Deathmatch video is the most popular, and has topped out at > 765 views. Which is a fraction of what Irina and The Burg's total > votes were, I'm sure! At the end of the Deathmatch, I think it'd had > 350 or so views. > > The only Youtube context I can give to this is the Flashmob video, > which has had 13,000 views on Youtube, and 746 on my site. > > Oh, and I now have around 50 or so subscribers (Feedburner number). > > I don't know - maybe I'm wrong and you're all getting thousands and > thousands of views for every film you make... but my heart tells me > that's not so... and if it isn't, do we average non-commercial > videobloggers need to readjust our expectations? > > Is getting 100 views on a video after it's been out there for a few > months really so bad? Imagine those 100 people in your local bar or > in your house! That's quite a lot of people. And then add all your > videos together. You've made 50? And they average 100 views in the > end? That's 5000 in total! And 5000 was a big number for Jesus... :) > > I remember a time when we complained about people's Feedcounters, and > the pressure of popularity that comes with people talking about > statistics. I hate that. But on the other hand, it's terrible if > everybody thinks that they can't say how many viewers they have > because they'd be perceived as unpopular and unsuccessful. > > I'd be really interested on your thoughts about this. > > Rupert > > http://twittervlog.tv/ > http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > -- http://www.DavidMeade.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
