Cool, sorry for not replying sooner.

I guess a problem is that its easy for me to talk negative about
advertising, not so easy to see a clear alternative for an alliance to
focus on.

I guess if ads & sponsorship are out, then alternative are donations,
subscriptions, merchandise sales, art grants, keeping the day job, umm
what else am I forgetting?

I know there ahve been some fine efforts by some people here to do all
they can for the donations model. I havent really seeen anybody
playing with the subscription idea, I guess it is risky.

Most of these things still need a certain scale to work, just like
ads. If you make it to a certain level, the good old ways of making
money open themselves up to people, but I still dont know how it can
be scaled down to work for the masses. My mind always wanders to some
sort of micropayment system, but I havent really a clue how it could
actually work.

Maybe if/when one of the commercial new media networks becomes
sucessful, it may be worthwhile thinking about a non-commercial
network that still has some money in it somehow, oh I dunno, it would
just be nice if vloggers could achieve something for all by coming
together, but enabling any profit to be fully reused by the members,
rather than the hosting site of whatever being the ones who can
capitalise from the masses?

Less than half-baked, I know.

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In [email protected], "Stephanie Bryant"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 7/18/07, Steve Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:My fears and rants
> about advertising seldom meet with much response,
> 
> > so I imagine nobody wants to form an alliance for downloadable media
> > that is untouched by advertising and all that goes with it. Well, fair
> > enough, many peoples only hopes of making money through vlogs involves
> > advertising, just be aware that this means dealing with companies who
> > handle this stuff, and that they will generally behave as companies
> > always do, nothing has really changed in the web 2 era that would
> > cause web 2 companies to have a different nature to that which has
> > gone before.
> >
> 
> I would join that alliance, Steve. Because not only do I not like
ads, but I
> have come to the conclusion that they are only minimally effective
in blog.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Stephanie Bryant
> Author, Videoblogging for Dummies
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> http://www.mortaine.com/
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