--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Heath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ok, Bill, I sent the orginal post, I was wondering if any vloggers > were talking about this, from a "non main stream" view....
Actually, my post was addressing the "lack of conversation" about the topic, not whether the topic should have been posted to this group. I apologize if I gave that impression. I think ANYTHING should be brought up here. Anything. What I'm saying is that people shouldn't expect something that has nothing to do with videoblogging to be hotly debated here... or even responded to, actually. > But according to you, since the event wasn't "vlogged" to begin with, > I guess it has no place on this list (?) Not my intent. :) > I'm sorry dude, but I have to disagree, I mean this story was going > no where, NO WHERE and it was grass roots, people making videos, > people blogging, etc that MADE it national, but still it get's barely > any coverage. Apples and oranges. Just because attention's been called to it doesn't mean MSM's going to pick up the fumble and run with it. > I thought one of the reason's some of the people on > this list started vlogging was to cover the very things the MSM > ignored..... I can believe that. I can also believe they're covering it. If so, I would expect to see posts from people saying "here's my video about the Jena 6". I still wouldn't expect hot debate here, regardless of how horrific the situation is. > I was simply asking if any vloggers out there were talking about it > or more specficly if anyone on this list was vlogging about it > > Heath > http://batmangeek.com And I *absolutely* agree with you that you SHOULD wonder about that and you SHOULD post about that. I haven't been around here long enough to know whether this group morphed from some kind of activism forum into what it is today. From the time I've been here, I've seen ZERO indication of that, so I wouldn't expect anything that has nothing to do with videoblogging to be replied to very much at all. -- Bill http://billcammack.com > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Cammack" > <BillCammack@> wrote: > > > > Obviously, this "Jena 6" situation is infinitely more horrific than > > the Feldman situation. People's lives are being taken away from > them > > unjustly... and just because someone FEELS like taking their lives > > away. Thats obviously fucked up. > > > > However... It has *nothing* to do with videoblogging. > > > > Yes, it's fantastic that we now have the ability to get information > > directly from the source of what's going on and that we can all be > > citizen journalists if we so choose and we can broadcast our message > > to anyone around the globe with an internet connection, and they can > > take our messages and pass them on via links or passing the actual > > media. Other than that, as far as I've seen in some very in-depth > and > > really well done pieces on the "Jena 6", there is NO video of > NOTHING, > > so it's strictly a civil rights issue. > > > > The Feldman situation was an issue here because he used the exact > same > > medium that we all use. He used a video blog to express whatever he > > was expressing, and happened to offend a lot of people in the > process. > > That's why, in the "videoblogging" group, there was a bunch of > > discussion about it. > > > > "Jena 6" is merely same-old-same-old. I'm sure there are egregious > > injustices that go on every single day that we could bring up IF > this > > were the "injustice" group. I don't know what the original poster > > intended to hear from this group about something that's been going > on > > since Plymouth Rock. > > > > The reason people rioted about the Rodney King situation was *NOT* > > because the cops kicked his ass lovely. It was because everyone on > > the planet SAW WITH THEIR OWN EYES what happened, and the people > that > > this has been happening to their entire lives and the entire lives > of > > their parents and grandparents were looking forward to ONE TIME > seeing > > a proper prosecution of clearly illegal behavior and punishment > handed > > down. "The System" said FUCK YOU, and that one time EVER that they > > were going to see consequences and repercussions slipped from the > > grasp of the people looking forward to it, and they lost their > minds. > > > > Same thing with OJ. Lots of people swore up and down he was going > to > > get convicted, and then when he didn't, there was no release of the > > built-up pressure, and people remain mad about it to this day. > > > > Same thing with Michael Vick. Lots of people are mad about his dog > > fighting/killing shenanigans. If he were to somehow WALK without > > going to jail AND get back in the NFL ASAP, people would feel > > pressurized and mad. > > > > The point is... Yeah, "Jena 6" is an horrific situation. Yeah, IRL, > > it's way way way worse than the Feldman situation. That doesn't > mean > > it has *anything* to do with videoblogging, so I don't know why the > > original poster would expect to hear comments about it on this list. > > > > -- > > Bill > > http://billcammack.com > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert <rupert@> wrote: > > > > > > I don't get it. "The silence from this group is deafening?" > You're > > > accusing us of being hypocritical? Of "hollow words to market > > > another dotcom product or service"? > > > One email at 3.00, asking if any vloggers are nearby, then a link > to > > > a million-viewed Youtube video at 7.00, then you post at 8.00 > all > > > hostile. > > > If your point is Why Didn't We Discuss This Before, then why > didn't > > > you bring it up before, instead of just sitting on your hands, > > > silently getting angry about the deafening silence from this > group? > > > Personally, until Heath's post, which I read after reading yours, > I > > > didn't know anything about it - first news I heard of it in the > UK > > > was last night, and there was no mention of videoblogging or the > web > > > as a crucial part of the story. And you know what, I didn't find > out > > > from your unhelpfully toned and negative message. > > > This isn't a rolling news discussion group. If you think > something > > > is worthy of discussion, bring it up. Don't sit silent and then > > > accuse everyone else of being dishonest or hypocritical for doing > the > > > same. > > > > > > On 20 Sep 2007, at 20:00, Its A Mystery and So Im I wrote: > > > This is a perfect example of the "long tail" in effect yet the > > > silence from this group is deafening. It's funny how people talk > > > about technology changing this and empowering the voiceless. I can > > > remember folks saying the same thing in this group. Yet its just > > > hollow words to market another dotcom product or service it seems. > > > > > > (Getting off my soapbox.) > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Heath" <heathparks@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Not sure how many people here know about this but you all may > want to > > > > check out the link here > > > > > > > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070920/ap_on_re_us/school_fight > > > > > > > > In an era of "shock" racism or "entertaiment" racism, it's > hard to > > > > believe that this didn't get more attention because it's REAL > racism, > > > > no if's and's or but's about it. > > > > > > > > Any vloggers live near where this is happening? If so care to > let us > > > > know what's happening on the street? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > >
