latest codec from on2 speaks of great performance got highdef etc. :) http://www.flashconnections.com/?p=33
On 8/22/07, Steve Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Similar experience on Windows in terms of CPU use. > > Someone pointed me in the right direction regarding the specifics of > harnessing the hardware accelerated fullscreen mode in actionscript, > it was right there under my nose all the time and I probably even > looked at it yesterday but then lost it in my over excited state: > > > http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Flash_Player:9:Update:Full-Screen_Mode_HW > > With adobes sample player code and my 960x540 video, I got fullscreen > results that seemed ok to me on a windows machine that had only a > celeron 900 processor, win xp, 512mb ram, simple graphics card. This > gives me great hope. > > I think Im probably done on this topic for now, thanks for bearing > with me whilst I waffled on. > > > Cheers > > Steve Elbows > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>, > "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > OK I do get substantially better fullscreen efficiency if I remove the > > aforementioned lines, along with the bit of code that changes those > > values if it detects lots of frames being dropped: > > > > http://www.unquack.com/jwmod.html > > > > But its still nowhere near as efficient as the adobe sample. There > > could be many reasons for this,w ho knows if I will stumble upon any > > of them, in any case Im sure most of the authors of video player swf's > > will be more than capable of optimising things by the time this update > > gets out of beta. > > > > Do many people here watch flash videos in fullscreen mode at the moment? > > > > Cheers > > > > Steve Elbows > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>, > "Steve Watkins" <steve@> wrote: > > > > > > Well adobes own sample allows you to see an on2 version of the video, > > > and I get the same 'less cpu in fullscreen mode' effect with that, so > > > Im assuming its the fullscreen hardware accel in the new player, as > > > opposed to h264. This is great :) > > > > > > Im currently hacking around with the JW player to see if its code > like > > > > > > "videoClip.display.smoothing = true; > > > videoClip.display.deblocking = 4;" > > > > > > which is causing jw player not to take effect of the nice fullscreen > > > acceleration. If its something more complex than that, then its likely > > > over my head, I dont really know what Im doing with actionscript yet. > > > > > > I'll test on windows later, including the small UMPC which has limited > > > graphics & cpu power. > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Steve Elbows > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>, > Sull <sulleleven@> wrote: > > > > > > > > yeah i did some more tests too... and so far h.264/flash full > > screen has > > > > always been a less intensive cpu process than flv/flash full screen > > > on my > > > > mac. > > > > have not tried windows yet. > > > > i hope it is in fact due to h.264 and the new flash player. > > > > > > > > thanks for taking the time to assess all of this, btw! > > > > > > > > can anyone else speak to this from both mac and windows? > > > > > > > > sull > > > > > > > > On 8/22/07, Steve Watkins <steve@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info, you are on to something there. On a Macbook > > > (non > > > > > pro) I get the same result, blip.tv and youtube use more cpu > > > > > fullscreen than these h264 examples. > > > > > > > > > > I am researching this issue, at a guess certain settings are > > required > > > > > to enable hardware-accelerated fullscreen mode. > > > > > > > > > > So for example here is the excellent JW Player playing my h264 > test: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.unquack.com/jw.html > > > > > > > > > > (I just changed the video extension from mp4 to flv to get it > > working > > > > > with JW whilst waiting for a new version that supports mp4 and m4v > > > > > extensions) > > > > > > > > > > Its using a lot more CPU than my previous example. Some of this > > may be > > > > > due to player controls, but I hope to discover that changing a few > > > > > settings in the player sourcecode will enable the hardware > > accelerated > > > > > fullscreen mode, hopefully for both h264 and on2 type formats. > > > > > > > > > > I certainly anticipate companies like blip taking notice at this, > > > > > because I am excited about the energy saving possibilities, > and the > > > > > ability for fullscreen to work nice on a wider range of computers. > > > > > > > > > > I also hope this will be an era where we can forget about slow > > > > > framerates like 12fps, still I am out of date on this issue, > > what does > > > > > blip use now? Either way I anticipate more cpu will be saved by > > > > > changing a few lines in their flash player source, than on > using low > > > > > framerates. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > > Steve Elbows > > > > > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com<videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com> > > > <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>, > > > > > "Michael Sullivan" > > > > > <sulleleven@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > the samples seem to use much lower cpu than most other flv at > > > fullscreen > > > > > > that i have experienced... at least on my macbook pro. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/21/07, Steve Watkins <steve@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dont worry, thats just because the adobe demo and my version > > > of it, > > > > > > > havent bothered to implement such controls. All the normal > > > flash video > > > > > > > features people are used to, should work with this stuff, its > > > just I > > > > > > > was rushing and dont really know what Im doing with flash, > > > still on > > > > > > > the 30 day trial of it after many years away from it entirely. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It should be pretty darn easy for existing flash video players > > > to work > > > > > > > with the new formats, not much should need to be done > apart from > > > > > > > changing any file extension checking so it allows mp4. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meanwhile Ive found the hefty variation in CPU useage for > > > fullscreen I > > > > > > > reported was much more dramatic using the safari 3 beta than > > > firefox, > > > > > > > but again this is an initial observation and subject to change > > > when > > > > > > > this thing gets out of beta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve Elbows > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > videoblogging@yahoogroups.com<videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com> > > > <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>, > > > > > > > > > > > > "Steve Rhodes" <srhodes@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This and the Adobe demo do look pretty in full screen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two problems - I can't find any indication of how long the > > video > > > > > is. I > > > > > > > > also can't > > > > > > > > seem to find a way to fast forward or back up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And it automatically loops. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Steve Rhodes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://flickr.com/photos/ari/ photos > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://ari.typepad.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://tigerbeat.vox.com blogs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://del.icio.us/tigerbeat interesting articles & sites > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/tigerbeat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
