Here, here. I consider Epic-Fu to be THE break-out hit of the year. On Dec 25, 2007, at 2:03 PM, cfmccaleb wrote:
> Steve and Zadi are pioneering not only a format, but the very > landscape of New Media. > They produce an excellent, entertaining show about modern culture, > and I feel they > shouldn't be forced to defend their professionalism and talent. > > Chris McCaleb > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Woolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Excuse me. > > > > Cheryl sent us an email letting us know she would be criticizing our > > content for being "bubble gum" content. We responded with > examples of > > the important issues we try to bring up, the interests of our > > audience, and so forth. > > > > At no point did she ever ask us about sponsored links, how we make > > money, or whether we use product placement. She asked nothing about > > our business model, our motivation to commercialize the show, or ask > > anything else on which she could base her commentary about our > > perceived untrustworthiness. > > > > Cheryl did not reveal this fact in her comments, rather she made it > > appear that we were full informed that our professional integrity > was > > going to be called into question. > > > > > > Steve Woolf > > > > > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Jeffrey Taylor" > > <thejeffreytaylor@> wrote: > > > > > > " If I were suspicious about how one is using advertising on > their show > > > and I had some questions about it, I would privately relay my > > > questions through an email to the right people and keep it there." > > > > > > > > > She did. Cheryl clearly states in the video that she e-mail > Zadi and > > Steve > > > about it before recording. Cheryl made the vid knowing that > Zadi and > > Steve > > > knew about it. > > > > > > And the video wasn't just about Epic-Fu. > > > > > > Open discussion is healthy. We all keep saying things behind > > people's backs, > > > and it's good to air the dirty laundry once in a while to keep the > > gossip > > > and rumors from taking over, and to also resolve conflicts en > masse and > > > perhaps even learn something in the process. This all has been a > > good thing, > > > and the way people have discussed has revealed more than the > discussion > > > itself. I've been pleasantly surprised by some, sorely > disappointed in > > > others. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 24/12/2007, terry.rendon <terry.rendon@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I asked the question on the Hummingcrow post "Am I the only who > > > > believes that most of the concerns brought up in this video > should > > > > have been handled privately?" > > > > > > > > I have no problem with people giving criticism of others. It > helps > > > > artists grow with when they get feedback, negative or > positive. My > > > > problem with Cheryl's criticism, however, towards Epic Fu was > that it > > > > called into question their business practices. Another > problem is at > > > > one point she calls Steve and Zadi "slick, carefully > crafted," which > > > > in my perception made it personal. In those two areas it > crossed the > > > > line for me. > > > > > > > > If I were suspicious about how one is using advertising on > their show > > > > and I had some questions about it, I would privately relay my > > > > questions through an email to the right people and keep it > there. Some > > > > would say I probably shouldn't even address it privately > because it's > > > > really not my business anyways. If you don't trust something > on the > > > > internet I think the best thing is just not visit the site > anymore. > > > > > > > > I know many new media people believe in total transparency. > However, I > > > > believe there has to be a limit. There's always going to > someone who > > > > is not satisfied the way you do things (especially if you > have large > > > > audience) and if you have constantly answer peoples concerns > that can > > > > turn extremely exhausting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Jeffrey Taylor > > > Mobile: +33625497654 > > > Fax: +33177722734 > > > Skype: thejeffreytaylor > > > Googlechat/Jabber: thejeffreytaylor@ > > > http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
