You have *got* to be kidding, Andreas. When you and Brittany started getting into lumieres, the only person I saw talk about them or promote them was you. It was you encouraging me to try doing them. You picked up the ones I made without tagging them properly, and gently taught me how to tag them if I wanted them to be picked up for the lumiere showcase site. If I choose to relate those facts of my personal experience, will I suddenly be a jerk for not looking up Brittany's involvement and finding some way to mention it, even though it's not what called my attention to lumiere video?
Rox writes genuinely and lovingly about why she decided to try a lumiere, and you could have chosen to comment in a positive way to honor Brittany for her contributions and encourage Rox to continue to experiment with the form. Instead you choose to be insulted, and tell us that Brittany does, too (though surely she can speak for herself?). You choose to answer negatively instead of positively. I started with lumieres because it was *fun*, and because of your encouragement, and because some of Brittany's work was inspiring to me, though I didn't know at the time she was your collaborator. The second the manifesto appeared, I stopped, because it doesn't represent my thoughts or feelings and I don't want to be associated with it. I don't even want my work appearing on the same site with it! I didn't say so publicly or ask you to remove links to the lumieres I made because I didn't want to insult you and Brittany. I just decided to quietly stop producing lumieres and let my actions speak for themselves. But because you feel it necessary to treat Rox in this manner, I think it's time to tell you the manifesto *does* put people off, and suggest it as one possible reason lumiere video isn't getting a lot of discussion in the group. You manage to suck all the fun out of making them. If I've learned anything in the past 30 days, it's that I can't insult you, Brittany or anyone else. No one can. You have to choose to feel insulted. I recommend choosing something more fun to feel. Cheryl Colan --- In [email protected], "Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Rox, > > I know the lumiere videos have not been discussed in this group (they > don't have ads and there's no web 2.0 start-up involved, I guess), but > it's still not very nice not to give credit where credit is due. Lumiere > videos have been posted since May/June last year. Since the beginning it > has been a two-person effort where Brittany and I have been collecting the > videos, encouraging people to create the videos and writing our reasoning > for pushing these types of videos. That's why both our names are on the > front page of the website: http://videoblogging.info/ > > You may think this is a small mistake and in the amount of letters missing > from your email and blogpost it is. At the same time not doing this very > basic research and thus leaving out the name of half the people behind the > project is extremely discouraging to those left out. Over the past 8 > months Brittany and I have put in a large amount of work handling the > lumiere videos and acknowledging my work, but not hers, is insulting to > both of us. > > The collection of lumiere videos currently consists of 548 videos from 78 > different people. You can jump straight to the videos at > http://videoblogging.info/lumiere/ If I must say so myself it is an > amazing repository of creativity. > > - Andreas > > Den 11.01.2008 kl. 05:17 skrev Roxanne Darling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > A little public gushing here, I hope you all will indulge me. I learned > > about Lumiere from Rupert. > > I finally made one today, and I want to thank you publicly, Rupert, (and > > Andreas too) for illuminating me about this art form. > > > > http://www.beachwalks.tv/2008/01/11/beach-walk-567-first-lumiere-for-rupert/ > > > > Love, > > > > Rox > > > > -- > Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen > http://www.solitude.dk/ >
