On Jan 17, 2008 1:07 PM, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any speculation on whether or not the link would be removed would be just > that, speculation. Please don't start making up issues that are not there.
Andreas, I'm not making anything up. YOU said that if we didnt want to be included at your site we were free to delete our videos from blip/our site. YOU said (and I quote) "If you want to have your videos removed simply delete them from your website." YOU continued on to expound about the link-oriented nature of the web and reaffirmed again in a second email that if we didn't want to be listed we should delete our hosted video. >No one has ever e-mailed me or Brittany with a request to remove a link from the site. I never said they did. However there seems to be some concern here in this thread and YOU HAVE STATED that if they don't like they are free to delete their video. My concern is hardly speculative, and I'm certainly not making anything up. Please don't start putting word in my mouth. > David, you can rest assured that people would have to stay on the lumiere > site for over 3 hours before your video would be played. That's hardly the point, Andreas - and I suspect you know that. If it took 45 years for my video to show up on a site whose premise I disagreed with, I as the creator of the creative work should be able to request it not be displayed as "participant". > There is a clear > link to the blogpost where the video came from right below it (same way > iTunes handles videos). Except iTunes doesn't publish a manifesto stating my beliefs / inspirations as they relate to my creative works. > Are you are outraged on your own behalf or on the behalf of unknown > strangers? Apart from the 3-4 very vocal people in this thread we have > received many positive comments from people who have created lumiere > videos. I'm sure you have gotten good feedback as well. But what about those 3-4 people expressing concerns here? Are you going to honor their request to not be included, or are you sticking to your "you're free to delete your video" stance? The only thing I was outraged about was your insistent need to default to an insulting and combative tone with people who were just trying to be part of the community. I said I was shocked about your insistence that you would not honor requests for removal (see above where I remind you of what YOU said). - Dave -- http://www.DavidMeade.com > Den 17.01.2008 kl. 10:24 skrev David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > On Jan 16, 2008 10:02 PM, Mike Moon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Adrian: > >> To your Question about having video's removed from the list. The only > >> solution Andreas has responded with is to "delete the video". Delete > >> it from it's original posted location... delete it from Blip (or > >> whatever storage location) and lose all links including those to other > >> sites or discussions. > > > > Yeah I really couldn't believe that when I read it. I don't think we > > would have accepted such a solution from anyone outside the community > > - why should we be expected to here? > > > > This is more than a simple link. It's our video being actually played > > (without the context of our post with it) on another site. Further, > > we're called participants - and "We/Our" beliefs are listed in a > > manifesto we may not agree with. And the person doing this says "if > > you don't like it delete your video from your site (and every other > > site that may have linked to it)". > > > > Besides the fact that it's just simple courtesy to honor the wishes of > > members of this community who are asking that their creative works not > > be displayed in the context of the manifesto (rather than forcing > > their "participation" in something they don't feel their creative > > works are in line with) .... > > > > Its just wrong - we never would have accepted that 'solution' from > > anyone else. > > > > I'm really quite shocked at how its all being handled. > > > > - Dave > > > > > > -- > Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen > http://www.solitude.dk/ > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
