This is exactly why we offer cross-upload to archive.org.  Anyone concerned 
about our 
liquidity should make use of it.  Of course, we never raised $12mm and won't be 
going 
anywhere.

Justin

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Roxanne Darling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> I am certainly not talking about backups to any sort of DVD-type external
> media performed by the hosting company.
> And yes, we have the ability to subscribe and/or download.
> 
> What I am bringing up for discussion is in the genre of contingency
> planning.  And because we as a business have managed servers for over a
> decade, it is something I am familiar with.
> 
> 1) Some hosting companies (lower end pricing) do not provide back up
> services. So, if one of their servers goes bad or someone's site programming
> goes bad, they do not have a backup to pull from. You are basically starting
> over from scratch. I think someone on this list had that problem a while
> back??
> 
> If backup services *are* included in the hosting plan, then there is a
> separate and duplicate set of data that can be used to restore the said site
> files in question. If people are not keeping copies of the stuff they
> upload, and a something goes wrong and there is no backup in place, then
> there obviously is a problem.
> 
> 2) If services like Revver that are the main repository for someone's media
> files go away without warning, how will people be affected?
> 
> In our case, we have not been keeping local versions of all the various file
> formats we upload for each daily episode. So if blip were to have a major
> failure, we would be screwed for all episodes around #375 and forward. I'm
> feeling irresponsible about this!
> 
> Our challenge is a bulk factor: having over 580 episodes, with an average of
> 2-4 file formats per episode.
> 
> So Charles, for you, my question was more to discuss this in the "thinking
> out loud" mode.
> I would hope that your servers are running frequent backups.
> I would hope that if blip appeared to be heading south, we would be
> contacted in advance to collect (aka download) our assets.
> 
> Right now we only have an FTP drop box, not 2-way FTP access, so this would
> be a cumbersome manual task of downloading that could take days conceivably.
> 
> 
> I don't know if there are other ideas??? I am not a server admin, just a
> yellow belt who gets nervous about back ups now and then. And someone who is
> happy to pay for value-added services. :-)
> 
> I choose not to think about the URL paths that would require updating. Long
> live Blip!
> 
> Rox
> 
> 
> On Feb 6, 2008 2:35 PM, Sull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >   why not just download all your videos that are on blip and toss them
> > on a HDD and/or DVDs?
> > if you are in the habit of downloading your own feed, you should be good
> > to go.
> > i dont think it would be a viable business for blip to send you drives
> > and discs.
> >
> > sull
> >
> >
> > On Feb 6, 2008 6:11 PM, Roxanne Darling <[EMAIL 
> > PROTECTED]<okekai%40gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > So time to think about backup plans. I for one am ready to pay extra for
> > > file back up services. I am not on Revver, but I am on blip, and will
> > > follow up with Mike if he doesn't chime in on this thread.
> > > We backup all our original digital media, and have backup in place on
> > the
> > > servers we manage for the first 350+ episodes. Since then, we have
> > hosted
> > > at blip, and I am not aware of backup service there.
> > >
> > > Aloha,
> > >
> > > Rox
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> 
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