Despite being a negative person and setting my expectations rather low, things havent met my expectations.
I never believed the hype and silly advertising projections, even without the economic storm I dont think all would be well in the world of web 2.0 also known as 'where's the revenue?' Although I was very harsh on would be 'new media networks' and their associated moguls, I did think they might succeed more than they seem to. I have seen a lot of video's that I thought were great, but not that many series, and the overused magazine format with wacky graphics and very fast cuts has driven me away. But I am aware that I am not usually the target demographic, so who cares about my opinion on that. I am not surprised by big media's lack of interest, because we have not seen success in terms of huge regular audience numbers for indie shows. On that front there are very few web shows that would be of interest to tv networks so far. I did think that niche stuff would gain a lot more traction, but this doesnt seem to have progressed too much either. Video has been incorporated into a lot of sites that are the new version of the 'niche but still mass audience' magazine, eg gaming sites and the financial times. And in terms of publicity and promotion, old media still dominates overall and is now kicking butt on the web, with things like hulu, bbc iplayer, and how many of the top podcasts on itunes are from old media. Whilst some shows have harnessed social networking to great affect, traditional media and viral videos seem to dominate such platforms still, and its really unclear how much longevity specific social network sites have, so much fad. I do not know whether its due to a lack of talent, me being a freak, or simply being overloaded and amused to death, but there isnt a show I watch regularly on the net nor look forward to with any real passion. Not that many tv shows or movies fall into that category for me either. But anyway this means that for the most part, internet video for me means typing in words to youtube to find specific content, much of it originally made by traditonal media. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "@..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No doubt that there is truth in the expressed misconceptions of what > Independent Net Media encompasses. > I dont even know the best terminology these days and language always helps > define ( whats a vlog? ;) > > User Generated Content is NOT EpicFu. So yeah that must be annoying to > hear. But I wonder if it is a deliberate misinterpretation in order to make > a weak point about where their focus is today. I mean, how can they not > know that some UGC uploaded to YouTube (ie. webcam talking head or silly cat > videos) with zero production is not in the same category as the episodic > productions (aka webisodes) that have > fans/audience/community/brand/merch/influence/value/market share etc? > They know. They just don't want to add any more value to their own > competition... especially if they know that they may end up buying that > competition up.... Why drive up the price? > > I understand the dire straits involved in being a full-time Internet > Entertainment Production Studio or whatever term fits... Starving Artist? I > know these past 3 or 4 years have been difficult experimental times for both > content creators and startups. With risk and failure comes valuable > knowledge. And that's not to say that there have not been many forms of > success. Amazing success stories. But it is still early and the landscape > has become more unpredictable in the short-term. There is also bad > short-sighted or overhyped data being thrown around which doesnt help. > > I think a crossroads has to be reached if you are in this business. Do you > want to (can you?) continue creaitng your own market and controlling your > own destiny or do you want to pitch to the big networks to sell your brand > and assets and lose control? You know who will be driving the terms of > those contracts. Even the best established Indie brands will have to > succumb to less than desirable contracts with a high risk of the brand > dissolving after a short run (which may or may not be what the big network > wants to happen). > It's a tough situation. Damned if you do, Damned if you dont. Some may > feel exhausted and just want some decent financial exit for all their hard > work so that they can move on with new creative projects. And that is > fine. > > I'm just trying to put things in perspective.... even if its my own unique > perspective. And a little devils advocate to keep the conversation going ;) > > > sull > > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 10:09 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I really enjoy saying all the thing you do as well, Jacek. The problem > > is that it's time the funding sources of all types stop seeing this as > > experimental and something for later. The goods are there NOW. > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >