pat: consistently way off.

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Pat Cook <[email protected]> wrote:

>   Hi everyone:
>
> Developers & marketers have been down this road before in the Web 1.0 world
> with popup windows, banner ads & even embedded statically-located audio &
> video players. ALL of these tactics have been defeated one way or another.
> Flash ITSELF can be blocked by some IE clones & Firefox.
>
> If Flash ITSELF can be blocked, then HOW IN THE WORLD do you think this
> player will work?
>
> In short, it's merely a repeat of history (Which IS NOT on the side of
> marketers).
>
> THAT is why I say there is NO future whatsoever for this player.
>
> Just pointin' out the facts Jack....
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat Cook
> [email protected] <patsblogs%40live.com>
> Denver, CO
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> From: smoothsayl
> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 13:48
> To: [email protected] <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Transparent Video Player
>
>
> Its Rob here.
>
> While I truly understand the aggravation things like the transparent
> video player can create in some folks, I take slight exception to the
> claim there is no use for them whatsoever.
>
> The primary use for them is making money or opt-ins. Specifically,
> more money or opt-ins than you can make on a site without one.
>
> Just about any marketing technique will aggravate someone.
>
> The key question for any marketer is:
>
> Is the aggravation / click-aways offset by the increased sales /
> opt-ins techniques like the transparent player provide?
>
> If the answer is yes, most marketers will use them. Or at least
> consider them. Its a simple decision based on numbers.
>
> No matter how much you hate American Idol, it will stay on the air
> until the numbers dictate that it shouldn't.
>
> I don't know what the exact research on these babies is. I do know the
> best online marketers test rigorously, and then use only what works.
> And they are more than willing to alienate a few if the overall effect
> on their business is positive.
>
> The security dangers may outweight this positive impact. But if it
> doesn't you will continue to see them on websites.
>
> Rob
> http://www.BlockbusterMultimedia.com
>
> --- In [email protected] <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Pat Cook <patsbl...@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi everyone:
> >
> > As your average, ordinary end user, I see SEVERAL problems with this
> "player".
> >
> > 1). SECURITY ISSUES
> >
> > 2). Just like popups & flashy ads, people WILL NOT put up with this
> player "auto-scrolling" their web browser PERIOD (Mainly for the
> reason above) & will do just about ANYTHING to GET RID or BLOCK it
> (Some IE-based clones already come with the ability to block Flash,
> which is what this "player" depends on)
> >
> > 3). I personally LOATHE websites that auto-start an audio or video
> clip AS WELL AS sites that some person (Be they an actual person or
> animated character) auto-starting themselves to play their messages.
> As such **I WILL GET OFF THAT SITE IMMEDIATELY**
> >
> > 4). If employed on the wrong websites, this kind of thing can lead
> to leaving things such as cookies and other trojans OR WORSE
> (Especially when it comes to IE). Hence my top concern above.
> >
> > Bottom line - If you ask me, this "player" has NO FUTURE WHATSOEVER
> as there's just no conceivably positive use for it IMO.
> >
> > Just my blunt opinion....
> >
> > Pat Cook
> > patsbl...@...
> > Denver, CO
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Bill Vick
> > Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 10:17
> > To: [email protected] <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [videoblogging] Transparent Video Player
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I've come across the Transparent Video player on a few websites. It's
> > where the player is invisible and a person looks like they are
> > standing or appearing on your page. Some call it a Video Spokesperson.
> >
> > Josh Anderson has a player and demo here:
> > http://transparentplayer.com/
> >
> > Are their any wordpress plugins to create this effect? I guess you
> > could use Izzy's white background tutorial (http://xrl.in/) and end up
> > with something very dramatic - at least that's my game plan.
> >
> > Any sources, tutorials or how to's on creating this effect and player?
> > Can it be used with Blip.tv hosted content? Is it worthwhile buying
> > into the player or tutorials?
> >
> > Bill
> > http://www.XtremeRecruiting.tv
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