I would assume for now that Swank has an exclusive for all their studio titles in the educational market so I don't think that is an option for Netflx etc. The thing is, nothing prevents a student now from getting a film they are watching for a class via Netflix or others, if it is available. The big issue would be why would the studios allow a whole class of students to do it for a price comparable to one person ? I am not sure if that is what you meant by Amazon etc. having lower prices but what kind of model are you suggesting ? If the studios could get a couple of bucks ( or whatever the fee is) per student per film with our without Swank, I am sure they would jump at it.
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Jo Ann Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm betting they will, especially if it's easy to do and they get the > bulk of the revenue stream. > > I'm still waiting for Amazon, Netflix, iTunes, etc. to wake up to the > educational market and allow libraries to purchase streams for courses > for varying lengths of time. Their prices to the home market sure beat > Swank. > > Jo Ann > > Jo Ann Reynolds > Reserve Services Coordinator > University of Connecticut > Homer Babbidge Library > Storrs, CT > 860-486-1406 > [email protected] > > Question Reality > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Spicer > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 1:59 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Videolib] YouTube to offer [and target] Indie/educational > filmrental..Thoughts? > > Just a little provocation for my friends in videolib land: > > Came across this announcement > http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/01/youtube-movie-rentals-today-sunda > nce-tomorrow-the-world/ > and I am curious to get some different perspectives (I can guess > some already)? I know that Amazon/Netflix/iTunes offers [mostly > feature film] streaming for individual use, but if YouTube expands to > truly target indies/educational media folks is this somehow a game > changer? Will any self-respecting producers actually sign up? > > Best, > Scott > > > Scott Spicer > Media Outreach and Learning Spaces Librarian > Coordinated Educational Services > University of Minnesota Libraries > 233 Walter Library 612.626.0629 > > > > > > On Jan 21, 2010, at 12:41 PM, [email protected] wrote: > >> Send videolib mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> > https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/[email protected] > y.edu >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [email protected] >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [email protected] >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of videolib digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Streaming feature films ([email protected]) >> 2. Re: Streaming feature films (Jessica Rosner) >> 3. Re: Streaming feature films (Sarah E. McCleskey) >> 4. Re: Streaming feature films (Elizabeth Sheldon) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 10:31:54 -0800 >> From: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Videolib] Streaming feature films >> To: [email protected] >> Message-ID: >> <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 >> >> ...and WHY would one want to do that, exactly? >> >> gary >> >> >>> Has anyone ever tried to get streaming rights for a feature film? >>> Even >>> for a day (or a week or two) with an identified number of students? >>> Is >>> it outrageously prohibitive? Does Swank do that? >>> >>> >>> >>> My likely alternative is to put copies on reserve in our three >>> locations >>> and recommend local libraries, Netflix, and local rental locations. >>> Thanks...jen >>> >>> >>> >>> Jennifer Foster >>> >>> Media Librarian >>> >>> The Victoria College/University of Houston-Victoria Library >>> >>> 361.570.4195 >>> >>> [email protected] >>> >>> http://vcuhvlibrary.uhv.edu >>> >>> >>> >>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, >>> acquisition,bibliographic >>> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video >>> formats in >>> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will >>> serve >>> as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a >>> channel of >>> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video >>> producers and distributors. >>> >> >> >> Gary Handman >> Director >> Media Resources Center >> Moffitt Library >> UC Berkeley >> >> 510-643-8566 >> [email protected] >> http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC >> >> "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself." >> --Francois Truffaut >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 13:32:26 -0500 >> From: Jessica Rosner <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [Videolib] Streaming feature films >> To: [email protected] >> Message-ID: >> <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 >> >> Yes Swank does it. I assumed that is who you were referring to re >> pricing. Both Criterions do it too. I think small companies, Kino, >> Milestone, Zeitgeist would probably do it for a fairly reasonable fee. >> I remain cynical of streaming for feature films because there are far >> too many that can not be licensed and probably never will be, >> including Chaplin films, the majority of foreign language films etc. I >> think the studio product may well come down to a reasonable price but >> unless the course in question is Warner Bros films of the 30s, you >> won't be able to clear many of the titles. >> >> Jessica >> >> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Foster, Jennifer <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> Has anyone ever tried to get streaming rights for a feature film?? >>> Even for >>> a day (or a week or two) with an identified number of students? Is it >>> outrageously prohibitive?? Does Swank do that? >>> >>> >>> >>> My likely alternative is to put copies on reserve in our three >>> locations and >>> recommend local libraries, Netflix, and local rental locations. >>> Thanks?jen >>> >>> >>> >>> Jennifer Foster >>> >>> Media Librarian >>> >>> The Victoria College/University of Houston-Victoria Library >>> >>> 361.570.4195 >>> >>> [email protected] >>> >>> http://vcuhvlibrary.uhv.edu >>> >>> >>> >>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion >>> of issues >>> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >>> control, >>> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >>> libraries and >>> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an >>> effective >>> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of >>> communication >>> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >>> distributors. >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 10:36:24 -0800 >> From: "Sarah E. McCleskey" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [Videolib] Streaming feature films >> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: >> >> <e0313b4b0e714545a494b22eafa357d7819859d...@va3diaxvs091.red001.local> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Swank does it. But it's not cheap. >> >> Sarah E. McCleskey >> Head of Access Services >> Acting Director, FIlm and Media Library >> 112 Axinn Library, 123 Hofstra University >> Hempstead, NY 11549-1230 >> 516-463-5076 >> [email protected] >> >> From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected] >> ] On Behalf Of Foster, Jennifer >> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 1:11 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [Videolib] Streaming feature films >> >> Has anyone ever tried to get streaming rights for a feature film? >> Even for a day (or a week or two) with an identified number of >> students? Is it outrageously prohibitive? Does Swank do that? >> >> My likely alternative is to put copies on reserve in our three >> locations and recommend local libraries, Netflix, and local rental >> locations. Thanks...jen >> >> Jennifer Foster >> Media Librarian >> The Victoria College/University of Houston-Victoria Library >> 361.570.4195 >> [email protected] >> http://vcuhvlibrary.uhv.edu >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. >> HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 13:41:10 -0500 >> From: Elizabeth Sheldon <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [Videolib] Streaming feature films >> To: [email protected] >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" >> >> Sarah, >> >> How much does Swank charge and how long is the term? >> >> Best, >> >> Elizabeth >> >> Elizabeth Sheldon >> Vice President >> Kino Lorber, Inc. >> 333 West 39th St., Suite 503 >> New York, NY 10018 >> (212) 629-6880 tele >> >> www.alivemindeducation.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jan 21, 2010, at 1:36 PM, Sarah E. McCleskey wrote: >> >>> Swank does it. But it?s not cheap. >>> >>> Sarah E. McCleskey >>> Head of Access Services >>> Acting Director, FIlm and Media Library >>> 112 Axinn Library, 123 Hofstra University >>> Hempstead, NY 11549-1230 >>> 516-463-5076 >>> [email protected] >>> >>> From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected] >>> ] On Behalf Of Foster, Jennifer >>> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 1:11 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: [Videolib] Streaming feature films >>> >>> Has anyone ever tried to get streaming rights for a feature film? >>> Even for a day (or a week or two) with an identified number of >>> students? Is it outrageously prohibitive? Does Swank do that? >>> >>> My likely alternative is to put copies on reserve in our three >>> locations and recommend local libraries, Netflix, and local rental >>> locations. Thanks?jen >>> >>> Jennifer Foster >>> Media Librarian >>> The Victoria College/University of Houston-Victoria Library >>> 361.570.4195 >>> [email protected] >>> http://vcuhvlibrary.uhv.edu >>> >>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, >>> acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current >>> and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. 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It is hoped that the list will serve > as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel > of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video > producers and distributors. > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues > relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, > preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and > related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective > working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication > between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and > distributors. > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
