Actually, I just wanted to clarify for people who know that "video" means
everything and anything including DVD, that Carrie meant VHS since it's not
encrypted. As for the technology of streaming, I've written that educators
should be worried not about easy access but about the quality of
presentation so many times that like the great Lilly von Schtupp, well it's
illegal but it's still magnificent<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-pmpgrYQgs>
...


Dennis

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Jessica Rosner <[email protected]>wrote:

> Cue Dennis to tell you really, really crappy that would look ( Beyond the
> highly questionable concept of "fair use" allowing the streaming of an
> entire copyrighted work).
> Now just be my little evil devil's advocate self,f I have a question for
>  you Carrie.
> Since ALA believes it is legal (or maybe you believe it should be legal) to
> stream an entire work to students outside of the actual classroom  does this
> mean you will advice Georgia State & UCLA both of whom have backed down, to
> NOT settle so this  view could in fact be tested in court?
> I mean that is what we all want right? A clear cut legal ruling would
> certainly end all this debate.
>
> Jessica
>
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Carrie Russell <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello Dennis:
>> Yes, I meant VHS.
>> Cheers! -Carrie
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 10:48:44 -0500
>> From: Dennis Doros <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Videolib] Statement on video streaming
>> To: [email protected]
>> Message-ID:
>>        <[email protected]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Dear Carrie,
>>
>> Just to clarify, by video, you mean VHS? That would make sense to me.
>>
>> Best,
>> Dennis
>> Milestone F&V
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Carrie Russell
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>> > Judy said:
>> >
>> > --------------------------------
>> > One interesting comment in this statement:
>> >
>> > "Moreover, educational institutions are likely to use only lawfully
>> made
>> > and acquired copies"
>> >
>> > Not if the item which they want to stream is a DVD with protective
>> > encryption, any digitized-for-streaming version of which is illegal."
>> > -----------------------------------------------
>> > I say: This is true only to an extent. If a DVD is encrypted, the user
>> > can use the video version of the title (if available), and digitize it
>> > for the classroom stream.  In addition, if the DVD is encrypted,
>> screen
>> > capture software could be used (although the quality would suffer)
>> > which the Copyright Office offered as a lawful alternative to DeCSS at
>> > the last 1201 rulemaking.    -Carrie Russell
>>
>> >
>>
>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
>> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
>> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
>> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
>> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
>> producers and distributors.
>>
>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues
> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control,
> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and
> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective
> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication
> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
> distributors.
>
>


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