Thanks, Susan I had no idea that showing to a classroom was not a "public performance", but I guess technically it is a closed viewing. But for our film, oftentimes the student groups will also use the film at a club meeting, which is open to the public, so I don't know if a school can accurately police whether a not a film is being used strictly for private use or could occasionally be used for a public performance as well.
Go Canada! Thanks for looking out for your artists. ;) Curtis On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 10:59 AM, <[email protected]>wrote: > Send videolib mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/[email protected] > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of videolib digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Copyright & Reserves (Moshiri, Farhad) > 2. Re: Copyright & Reserves (Brewer, Michael) > 3. Re: DVD damage rate & filmmakers not being the enemy > (Susan Albrecht) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 12:45:56 -0500 > From: "Moshiri, Farhad" <[email protected]> > Subject: [Videolib] Copyright & Reserves > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > One of my colleagues told me in order to keep a DVD (or a book) on course > reserves for consecutive semesters we need to get copyright holder's > permission. I know this is true about copies of journal articles or chapters > of books. But this is about the legally purchased DVDs or books in the > library collection. Is this true? > > Farhad Moshiri > AV Librarian > University of the Incarnate Word > San Antonio, TX > > ________________________________ > This email and any files transmitted with it may be confidential or contain > privileged information and are intended solely for the use of the individual > or entity to which they are addressed. If you are not the intended > recipient, please be advised that you have received this email in error and > that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email > and any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email > in error, please immediately delete the email and any attachments from your > system and notify the sender. Any other use of this e-mail is prohibited. > Thank you for your compliance. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. > HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 10:54:24 -0700 > From: "Brewer, Michael" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Copyright & Reserves > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > < > d8828b9129050541af4256cd00d50ec90112440...@smethurst.library.arizona.edu> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Not true. This is a physical copy and 109 says we can use it as we like. > mb > > Michael Brewer > Team Leader for Instructional Services > University of Arizona Library > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Moshiri, Farhad > Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 10:46 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Videolib] Copyright & Reserves > > One of my colleagues told me in order to keep a DVD (or a book) on course > reserves for consecutive semesters we need to get copyright holder's > permission. I know this is true about copies of journal articles or chapters > of books. But this is about the legally purchased DVDs or books in the > library collection. Is this true? > > Farhad Moshiri > AV Librarian > University of the Incarnate Word > San Antonio, TX > > ________________________________ > This email and any files transmitted with it may be confidential or contain > privileged information and are intended solely for the use of the individual > or entity to which they are addressed. If you are not the intended > recipient, please be advised that you have received this email in error and > that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email > and any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email > in error, please immediately delete the email and any attachments from your > system and notify the sender. Any other use of this e-mail is prohibited. > Thank you for your compliance. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. > HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 14:03:23 -0400 > From: Susan Albrecht <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Videolib] DVD damage rate & filmmakers not being the > enemy > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Very little DVD damage for us either, Brigid. We do circulate to > faculty, staff and students... but we're also a small institution, so > we're not talking huge circ numbers. Still, I've rarely had to replace > DVDs, beyond those which have gotten lost or been pilfered. > > On the other issue... I loved Mike's post. The huge price differential > he described *is* difficult for institutional buyers to swallow. We > have an FTE of about 925 students, and yet in most tiered pricing > structures, we're expected to pay that same $300 price that the big > universities with tens of thousands of students are paying. One > wonderful company in our midst, whose rep I chatted with a NMM, was > totally open to placing us at the community college rate because of our > size, but that's a rare thing. And I'll be honest - before that > arrangement was made, I *did* buy some of their DVDs at home use prices > because, legally, so long as these films were to be used just for > individual checkout and/or in classrooms, we didn't need the additional > rights which come with the college/uni rate. HOWEVER, now that we're > being charged the mid-rate, which more accurately matches both our > population size and our budget, I'm happy to shell out the mid-range > price, rather than skirting things to buy a home use DVD. (See? Not all > of us buyers are evil, selfish or out to get filmmakers either.) > > As someone will undoubtedly mention in response to you, Curtis, all bets > are off once a filmmaker decides to put the home use version out for > sale with a secondary source, such as Amazon. If he/she/they control > *all* sales, then an institution really probably ought to pay the > institutional rate, but once the home use version is available from > other vendors, then a library which does not need PPR would be well > within its legal rights to purchase a home use DVD and add it to the > collection. (In the US anyway!) > > Susan Albrecht > Wabash College > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brigid Duffy > Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 1:25 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Videolib] DVD damage rate > > "Since DVD's rarely survive a year of academic/student use"?!! > > Here at San Francisco State University we still have the first DVD we > purchased in 1998 on the shelf, and over 3,800 others. We have a DVD > repair machine but only use it a few times a semester. We only check out > to faculty, though - and get replacements from them if they damage or > lose it. > > What do other academic libraries have to say about DVD damage? > > > Brigid Duffy > Academic Technology > San Francisco State University > San Francisco, CA 94132-4200 > E-mail: [email protected] > > On May 13, 2010, at 10:09 AM, John Potter-Smith wrote: > > > > I have no problem paying a reasonable price for a program. > > Since in your eye, we have the item for use for years and years, then > you need to sell it on a media that lasts years and years. > > Since DVD's rarely survive a year of academic/student use, it sure would > be nice if Filmmakers/Vendors provided (free or for shipping costs) > replacement copies for damaged media formats. > > Thanks, > > John Potter-Smith > Library - Audiovisual Technician > Kwantlen Polytechnic University > Coast Capital Savings Library > Phone: 604-599-2405 > Fax: 604-599-2106 > > <image001.png>The Library ... Your Information Destination > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Curtis Chin > Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 9:38 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Videolib] Filmmakers are not your enemies > > I know I am a newbie here and at the risk of alienating folks, I need to > speak up for the filmmakers perspective. > > Trust me when I say, we filmmakers are not trying to get rich off our > projects. We just want to make a living and to be fairly compensated for > our work. Often times, we embark on our films because they are subjects > that personally matter to us, in my case, it was a family friend who had > been murdered, and we devote years to it without getting any monetary > compensation. We are just trying to recoup our costs. > > Now, why the price difference? It's because you will be showing these > films as often as you like (for years) and you will be making money off > our work through tuition and other fees. If you amortize it, it's still > a pretty good deal for your institutions. Would you prefer if we didn't > offer the home version and just had the one institutional price? > > And to show a "home" version when it is specifically stated that is not > the intended purpose, I think is morally wrong, just like downloading > copyrighted video or music off the internet. But then, again, some > people have no problem doing that either. So I suspect that I lot of > people will be doing that. The loser in that is the artist. Sigh. > In the end, we are all trying to help educate the population. We share a > common goal and it's wrong to think we are your adversaries. > > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:47 AM, <[email protected]> > wrote: > Send videolib mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/[email protected] > y.edu > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of videolib digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. When the Levees Broke: PPR (Blaine Waterman) > 2. Re: Old topic, new rant... (CROWLEY, CHRISTINE) > 3. ALA vs SilverDocs in DC (Carleton Jackson) > 4. FW: video dominoes (Hutchison, Jane) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 17:04:19 -0700 > From: Blaine Waterman <[email protected]> > Subject: [Videolib] When the Levees Broke: PPR > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > > <79b252d4661f4642b4be6d6eef6eddd8cd21760...@exchangembx.sf-library.org> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Has anyone on the list screened Spike Lee's Katrina documentary? > If so, how/who/how much?? :) > > TIA, > > Blaine Waterman > Film and Television Specialist > San Francisco Public Library > 415.557.4461 > [email protected] > > > > Official SFPL use only > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. > HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 19:54:26 -0500 > From: "CROWLEY, CHRISTINE" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Old topic, new rant... > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I see no reason that the home video cannot be purchased for that use, > unless for reason the "seminar" is outside the realm of a classroom > situation....and the university is clearly not a for-profit institution. > > Christine Crowley > Dean of Learning Resources > Northwest Vista College > 3535 N. Ellison Dr. > San Antonio, TX 78251 > 210.486.4572 office > 210.486.4504 fax > [email protected] > Northwest Vista College is one of the Alamo Colleges > www.alamo.edu/nvc/lrc > > > ________________________________ > > From: [email protected] on behalf of John Potter-Smith > Sent: Wed 5/12/2010 5:30 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Old topic, new rant... > > > > Welcome to Canada !! > > > > This is what we face every day, we have no choice of not purchasing > University copies with PPR (Public Performance Rights) like you lucky > folks do in the US. > > > > John Potter-Smith > > Library - Audiovisual Technician > > Kwantlen Polytechnic University > > Coast Capital Savings Library > > Phone: 604-599-2405 > > Fax: 604-599-2106 > > > > > ED00172_<https://mail.alamo.edu/exchange/ccrowley5/Drafts/RE:%20[Videoli > b]%20Old%20topic,%20new%20rant....EML/1_multipart/image001.png > <https://mail.alamo.edu/exchange/ccrowley5/Drafts/RE:%20%5BVideolib%5D%2 > 0Old%20topic,%20new%20rant....EML/1_multipart/image001.png> > The > Library ... Your Information Destination > > > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Merle J. > Slyhoff > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:31 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Videolib] Old topic, new rant... > > > > $300.00 for a video for universities and colleges vs $25.00 for a video > for home use and one faculty member wants to view it to maybe show to a > seminar of 15 students... and I have to say no because I can't fit it > into the budget at $300.00. No one will ever convince me that this cost > differential is justifiable when it's being used in the classroom for 15 > students. > > > > OK, said it, no need to reply because I know what you'll all say. J > > > > Merle > > ******************************************************************* > > Merle J. Slyhoff V: 215-898-9013 > > Collection Development & F: 215-898-6619 > > Resource Sharing Librarian E: [email protected] > > Biddle Law Library > > University of Pennsylvania > > 3460 Chestnut Street > > Philadelphia, PA 19104-3406 > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed and removed. > Name: not available > Type: application/ms-tnef > Size: 9447 bytes > Desc: not available > Non-text attachments are only available in MIME digests. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 08:55:12 -0400 > From: Carleton Jackson <[email protected]> > Subject: [Videolib] ALA vs SilverDocs in DC > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed > > > Greetings VRT-ers: > > Well, not really a "VS" but a concurrence. > > Just wanted to let you folks know who are trying to do both at DC that > the SilverDocs schedule is slowly being revealed. Each year there is a > theme that precedes and follows the Guggenheim honoree. We can finally > tell you that this years honoree is Frederick Wiseman. He and his films > will be present at both the Festival and Conference. Those of you who > are trying out the educator pass for Friday or are around Saturday night > may have access to an event or two with him. I'm trying to see if one or > a combination of vouchers can get you into the big Guggenheim event too. > Stay tuned... > > http://silverdocs.com/news-links/2010/05/06/frederick-wiseman-named-gugg > enheim-honoree/ > > Also: if some of you were thinking of the educator pass, but couldn't > decide or were sold out, there are a few back, however at $150 price > now. Still, if you missed out on an ALA preconference but still have at > least Friday free, its well worth it, and cheaper then most > preconferences. > > https://secure2.convio.net/afi/site/Ecommerce/1989794434?VIEW_PRODUCT=tr > ue&product_id=1481&store_id=1301 > > As usual, any questions feel free to contact me directly. And it is > possible to be two places at the same time. > > Carleton > > > -- > Carleton L. Jackson > Librarian, Nonprint Media Services Library > University of Maryland Libraries > 0300 R. Lee Hornbake Library > College Park, Maryland 20742-7011 > 301-405-9226 voice / 301-314-9419 fax > [email protected] > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 11:43:35 -0400 > From: "Hutchison, Jane" <[email protected]> > Subject: [Videolib] FW: video dominoes > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > > <4d509e6f1d635043bc720a5b2a4eae6507dd5...@callisto.unv.campus.wpunj.edu> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Many of you have brought up the fact that your video collections were > going. > > > > I thought you'd get a kick out of this. > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2Qup0kA6kw > > > > > > > > Jane B. Hutchison > > Associate Director > President > > Instruction & Research Technology CCUMC: > Leadership in Media & Academic Technology > > William Paterson University > http://www.ccumc.org > > Wayne, NJ 07470 > > 973-720-2980 (work) > > 973-418-7727 (cell) > > 973-720-2585 (facs) > > [email protected] > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. > HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. > > End of videolib Digest, Vol 30, Issue 23 > **************************************** > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of > issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic > control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in > libraries and related institutions. 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