Gary, Ah--My apoligies, I thought it was only "legally available on VHS" list and not including OOP DVD stuff.
I do believe that Maria Candelaria was available legally on DVD at one time, Midwest indeed sold it once upon a time. They also show availability for Funny Dirty Little War but I think that is suspect and believe it is OOP as well. Dona Flor was available from NYV and of course is also gone with the wind. Personally I think it's much more important to identify the the titles that have never had a legal DVD release for preservation. Most (though certainly not all) titles that did make it to DVD that are no longer in print can be found with relative ease and at a reasonable price on the secondary market. Best, Myles ________________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] [[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 1:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Videolib] VHS only?--available on DVD Remember: my list is titles which are not currently in vhs or DVD release in the US (i.e. not counting the OP market). So, stuff that WAS available at one time on DVD, but is no longer is not included. Basically, stuff not currently available via amazon or Facets. You sure about the list below, Miles? Portrait of Teresa, for eg was a New Yorker title, now gone with the wind. Funny Dirty Little War? Gone, as far as I can tell. Maria Candelaria--there are bootlegs, but no legal copies for sale. Dona Flor? Not around, as far as I know. Wuthering Heights (the '39 Wyler) has been OP for a long time. gary > These are a few that have had legal releases on DVD that I'm aware of. > > Dona Flor and Her Two Husbands > Funny Dirty Little War > María Candelaria > Portrait of Teresa > Raisin in the Sun (1989) had a very brief DVD release but is now gone > Sid and Nancy also on DVD once upon a time > Wuthering Heights DVD once upon a time > Yellow Submarine DVD --extended edition only not theatrical cut and now > OOP. > > Best, > Myles > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:21 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Videolib] VHS only? > > ah what would I do without my daily Jessica annoyance. > > The Berlin Alexanderplatz on the list is the one directed by Phil Jutzi > (1931)...not the 1980 TV series (on Criterion) > > The Leopard, you're right...we have the DVD and it shouldn't be on the > list. > > I've included IMDB listings to distinguish the versions. The Uncle Tom > in > question is the (really horrible) one directed Géza von Radványi (France > | > Italy | West Germany | Yugoslavia, 1965). The Jekyll/Hyde is Herbert > Brenon's 1913 version. So, you see, I DO know what I'm doing (generally) > > The NYU project is very likely going to focus primarily on non-theatrical > titles. Jessica: The only difference between out of distribution > feature > films and out of distribution non-theatrical works from an archivist's > perspective is the fact that the owners of the latter almost always have > more economic clout and wherewithall to challenge efforts to > preserve/conserve. > > Section 108 of the copyright law makes no distinction whatsoever between > features and others. > > gary > > >> Gary >> I looked at this list VERY quickly and there are two obvious mistakes. >> The >> Leopard & Berlin Alexanderplatz are both on DVD from Criterion >> There many others where I am not sure which version you are looking >> for, >> say >> Uncle Tom's Cabin, Dr. Jeckyl. On Genesis is that is the African >> feature, >> Kino has it. >> >> I am less than certain how "good" the NYU project is as there is HUGE >> difference between some very rare educational type films that are not >> DVD >> and >> studio, indie & foreign films that are not. I had my little >> "disagreement" >> with one the main people behind this , who told a session at ALA that >> one >> should NOT contact the rights holder regarding the rights because they >> might >> actually say no, therefor the goal was merely to establish that the >> item >> was >> rare and not available and the rights were irrelevant. Not only is that >> a >> deliberate attempt to violate copyright but would lead to an incredibly >> stupid waste of resources. Why in the world would a US library >> "preserve" >> some early french short already archival preserved in their home country >> ( >> and this was actually one item that was mentioned at said ALA session). >> >> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 11:35 AM, <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi all >>> >>> I think I mentioned awhile back the interesting Mellon funded grant >>> project that NYU and UCB are currently working on... It's a >>> preservation >>> project aimed at identifying (and dealing with) video titles that are >>> out-of-distribution and physically at risk (particularly titles that >>> have >>> limited US holdings) >>> >>> In any case, as part of this project, I just culled thru Berkeley's >>> feature film holdings and identified the vhs titles that are not >>> currently >>> available on DVD in the US marketplace. The list, fyi, is attached. >>> >>> A few caveats: We haven't as yet done an extensive search for >>> legal-copy >>> DVD replacements in the OP marketplace (e.g. amazon marketplace), nor >>> have >>> we searched non-US sources at this point. This is just a quick first >>> pass. >>> The list also does not, at the moment, include stuff such as shorts >>> (silents, avant garde, animation etc.)that are currently only >>> available >>> on >>> VHS anthologies. >>> >>> PS: Chris Lewis...weren't you maintaining a list of titles that had >>> never >>> been released on DVD? If so, could you pls publish the list. Merci! >>> >>> Gary Handman >>> Director >>> Media Resources Center >>> Moffitt Library >>> UC Berkeley >>> >>> 510-643-8566 >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC >>> >>> "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself." >>> --Francois Truffaut >>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >>> issues >>> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >>> control, >>> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >>> libraries >>> and >>> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an >>> effective >>> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of >>> communication >>> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >>> distributors. >>> >>> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will >> serve >> as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel >> of >> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video >> producers and distributors. >> > > > Gary Handman > Director > Media Resources Center > Moffitt Library > UC Berkeley > > 510-643-8566 > [email protected] > http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC > > "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself." > --Francois Truffaut > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of > issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic > control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in > libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve > as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of > communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video > producers and distributors. > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of > issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic > control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in > libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve > as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of > communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video > producers and distributors. > Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 [email protected] http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself." --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
