My experience is similar to Christine's, that is, we have and really like ASP and FMG - and they are convenient and cost-effective and are already well used even though our subscriptions are fairly recent. The use of the video databases includes some classroom use but likely more general use by students to obtain information on a topic in a similar manner to how books are used. Some of the titles that our faculty have requested to support teaching have been included in these resources so we haven't needed to acquire those specific titles individually. However many are not so we really need both models: database subscriptions as well as the ability to acquire individual titles. One of my goals is to move from acquiring individual titles on DVD to acquiring digital video files and working with our other staff in the library system to develop a plan to get the infrastructure in place to provide access to the digital video files. Developing the infrastructure takes resources which we don't seem to have enough of at the moment and therefore it hasn't been accomplished yet. The other road block is the higher cost of PPR for digital video files and often the need to track the license term.
Marilyn

CROWLEY, CHRISTINE wrote:
I'm using ASP and FMG already and will definitely be doing Ambrose this coming year. They seem to have good prices for what they offer and the licenses are not unduly complicated. The content is terrific and covers broad spectrum of interests. I am way more interested in collections rather than trying to track down and keep track of individual titles and varying lengths of licensing--I simply don't have the staff to do this. Christine Crowley
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From: [email protected] on behalf of Jonathan Miller
Sent: Tue 8/24/2010 5:15 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Some survey results



Dear Gary

Well, yeah. And if we offered to give it away that would be even more
popular. (well maybe, not so many of you took us up on that offer, actually)


A) there may have been problems with how some of the questions in the survey
were constructed, but not, I think, the ones I reference and report on the
results of below.

B) The main companies that are streaming from their servers to users now, as
far as I know, are not charging extremely high prices. Who is offering
streaming now at "Exorbitant" prices and any of the usage is from them? Or
are you saying FMG and Ambrose and New Day are charging exhorbitant prices?
Is Alexander Street? Please be specific.

Also you don't respond to the figures we DID collect, however un scientific
(or do you know of a better scientific source of such info/data? I don't).

So, let's round it off and try it this way: half or less of you are
currently streaming media (from our sites or your own)

And about half of the videolib universe would like to stream, when they do
stream, from our sites - and half of you would like to / will / are able to
do it yourselves. Does that sound right to you?

AND, of the current media usage by video lib people out there - only a small
part of it is streaming or digital so far, and most of it (well over 75%) is
still DVD

Do you those three 'conclusions' sound reason able to you?

Thanks!

JM






Jonathan Miller
President
Icarus Films
32 Court Street, 21st Floor
Brooklyn, NY 11201 USA

tel 1.718.488.8900
fax 1.718.488.8642
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
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[email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 6:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Some survey results

Hey Jon

Interesting (if inconclusive) stuff.  There are some logical flaws in this
survey (and your conclusion) I think.  The survey responses are, of course,
based on services, content, and technology currently available.
They're also based on current pricing schemes.

The real question to ask, I think, would be "how many of you would opt for
subscribing to remote (i.e. vendor-side) access if:  1) network delivery
were relatively stable for multiple concurrent users 2) image resolution
were sufficient for study-level access 3) continuing access to individual
titles were relatively stable (i.e. we could be sure that the carpet
wouldn't be whisked out from under us whenever distributor/filmmaker
contracts expired 4) pricing was flexible enough to allow both
single-semester and longer term-access

And the real kicker:  how many would get into this business more earnestly
(either for the short  or long haul) if currently unrealistic pricing
structure for digital delivery (including the necessity of paying over and
over for access to the same title) didn't preclude it.

gary handman

Dear videlib universe

As some of you noticed we recently did a survey asking some questions
of our customers (hopefully you all ARE customers!) and some of the
answers might be interesting.

So far we received 76 responses.

Of these:

1) 60% of you do NOT license streaming or download rights (40% do)

2) of those 82% license rights for more than one semester (one year
term or
longer)

3) so that is .82 x .40 = just 33% of you (?) license rights (for a
year or
more)

4) additionally, when you do license rights, 59% is from the
distributor's web site, and 41% from your own or a local server.

5) broken down further:

Of the 59% who do license rights from the distributor's web site, 12%
do so "as needed" for a semester or one class, and 88% do so for a
year or more

Which, if my math and logic is correct(dicey) - that means that

Only 59% of 82% of 40% of you a) license rights for a year or more AND
b) access the digital files from the distributor's web site.

Which is (Drum roll): only 19% of you actually need us to make
available this sort of service?



Interesting (?) results # 2:

We asked what percentage of your media usage and expenditure is for
online/streaming, vs. DVD purchases.

Re usage:

85% of you said 20% or LESS
74% said 90% or MORE (44% said 100%!)

Re expenditures:

81% said 20% or Less
78% said 90% or More



I know it is a small and non-scientific sample. Maybe we should
pretend it never happened. But - any thoughts on this?

Thanks!

Best,

Jonathan


Jonathan Miller
President
Icarus Films
32 Court Street, 21st Floor
Brooklyn, NY 11201 USA

tel 1.718.488.8900
fax 1.718.488.8642
www.IcarusFilms.com
[email protected]




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VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control,
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
distributors.




VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


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VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

--
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Head, Fine Arts & Visual Resources
Libraries and Cultural Resources
25 MacKimmie Library Block
University of Calgary
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Calgary, Alberta, CANADA

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Phone: (403) 220-3795

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
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