Well as Dennis pointed out "theft" is the legal term for violating a rights holders copyright and UCLA hiding beyond "sovereign immunity" does not make it less so. However it is not people on the list I think are thieves, I think you are all in a very tough position between academics who truly do not give a rat's ass about copyright, administrations which want to save money and filmmakers whom you genuinely support. It is tough place to be, but not as tough as the independent distributors and filmmakers who see their work being stolen by people who either hide it ( at least UCLA was forced to admit they streamed whole films) or use high priced lawyers and technicalities to avoid being held liable while simultaneously painting rights holders as greedy, wealthy companies who don't care about their works and are picking on poor innocent academics. ( Ever read the comments sections of the academic journals covering this case?).
I know I rant A LOT on this subject, but it goes to the heart of business I love which it is killing and I think nearly everyone here knows it is both illegal and unethical to stream an entire film without obtaining the rights. I know I have mentioned this again and again but beyond losing their livelihood what hurts distributors and filmmakers most is that they believed the academic community was their friend and supporter and not the instrument of their destruction and I have spoken to enough of them to know this is not an exaggeration. OK I am done. Back to work if I can sell anything these days. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Ball, James (jmb4aw) < jmb...@eservices.virginia.edu> wrote: > Thank you for this expression Roger. Although I don't imagine most of us > are thieving academics, being referred to as such doesn't do much for > maintaining a civil discourse between two parties that clearly rely on each > other. Keeping the vitriol and rancor at bay would probably serve us all > well. > > Matt > > ________________________________________ > > Matt Ball > Media and Collections Librarian > University of Virginia > Charlottesville, VA 22904 > mattb...@virginia.edu | 434-924-3812 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto: > videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Brown, Roger > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 12:13 PM > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Subject: Re: [Videolib] UCLA case > > All, > > While I appreciate and respect everyone's right to say what they like on > the videolib listserv, can I request that we temper the language to avoid > further comments suggesting that the librarians and academics here at UCLA > are nothing more than thieves? > > I am one of those librarians and academics, and we are not intentionally > or maliciously out to steal any and all content, regardless of contracts, > agreements or law. This is not something we take lightly. Discussions > about this case should not include personal attacks. > > Thank you. > - - > > > Roger Brown > Manager > UCLA Instructional Media Collections & Services > 46 Powell Library > Los Angeles, CA 90095-1517 > office: 310-206-1248 > fax: 310-206-5392 > rbr...@oid.ucla.edu > > > > - > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues > relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, > preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and > related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective > working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication > between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and > distributors. > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues > relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, > preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and > related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective > working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication > between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and > distributors. > -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
