I'm getting confused here. As far as I know, as far as rights are concerned, it doesn't matter what format a movie is on, provided that, as in my case, it's for non-theatrical showings.
For example, I can show (great) movies like Suburbia, Over the Edge, Maniac, The Wicker Man, Rolling Thunder and Over the Edge whether they're on 8mm, 16mm, 35mm, VHS, DVD, Blu-ray, laser disc, etc, because the studios / distributors / rights owners of those films farm that business out to Swank, MPLC, whoever, who then sells the license to us.. I agree that a lot of good films that I want to show do not fall under a license like this but I have had much success in the past by pleading the "poor public library" case to whoever owns the rights. It can work! Dave On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Jessica Rosner <[email protected]> wrote: > Well in general the original purchaser would have had the rights but > they don't transfer. I get that Dave wants to use a PPR license to > cover 16mm which I think is very sweet though you will have to limit > to exact list which of course knocks out a lot of good films > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Haller, Dorcas W. <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi Dave, >> >> I think Jessica means that if the films will be shown to the public (which >> is probably what you're planning), then even if you OWN the film, you will >> still have to get permission to show it. >> >> BTW, we have checked our archives and cannot find any of our old 16mms. >> Perhaps one of the other librarians has already notified you? >> >> Dusty Haller >> >> Dorcas Haller >> Librarian/ Professor/ Department Chair >> Community College of Rhode Island Library >> One Hilton Street, Providence, RI 02909 >> Phone: 401-455-6085 Fax: 401-455-6087 >> [email protected] >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave Dvorchak >> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 1:54 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Videolib] Providence Community Library (Rhode Island) is >> seeking 16mm films >> >> Hi Jessica, >> >> Yes, we do have a Public Performance License through Swank which >> allows us to work with many films. I do know about many rental co's >> and also private collections that can be rented from, but am trying to >> pursue the "free" angle at the moment (as we don't have any money!). I >> found a large collection stashed away in a library basement recently >> and will be working off of that for now! >> >> Thanks, >> Dave >> >> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Jessica Rosner >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Dave >>> I can think of several places you might be able to borrow them, but >>> you do realize that unless the film is in the Public Domain you have >>> pay a rental to the rights holder? >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Dave Dvorchak <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> Greetings! >>>> >>>> My name is Dave and I'm the Office Manager and one of the program >>>> people (when the inspiration strikes me) for the Providence Community >>>> Library system (http://www.provcomlib.org) in Providence, RI. >>>> >>>> I wanted to put the word out that we're seeking loans or donations >>>> (preferred!) of 16mm films for an upcoming and ongoing film series. >>>> Primarily interested in feature-length pictures, especially if in good >>>> condition, but I would love to hear about any ol' films currently >>>> taking up space in your closets, back rooms, basements, storage units, >>>> etc. I can pick up and haul them out of your library in the nearby RI >>>> / MA / CT area, and can work out shipping arrangements if they're >>>> coming from a distance! We'll give them a good home and make them >>>> available to the people here who want to see them! Also will consider >>>> 8mm and 35mm (or any other odd format). >>>> >>>> Please get in touch with any titles you'd like to get rid of as I'm >>>> eager to hear! >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> -- >>>> David Dvorchak >>>> Office Manager >>>> Providence Community Library >>>> [email protected] >>>> (401) 467-2700 x2 >>>> >>>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >>>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >>>> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >>>> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve >>>> as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of >>>> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video >>>> producers and distributors. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jessica Rosner >>> Media Consultant >>> 224-545-3897 (cell) >>> 212-627-1785 (land line) >>> [email protected] >>> >>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues >>> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, >>> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries >>> and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an >>> effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of >>> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video >>> producers and distributors. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> David Dvorchak >> Office Manager >> Providence Community Library >> [email protected] >> (401) 467-2700 x2 >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues >> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, >> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and >> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective >> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication >> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >> distributors. >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues >> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, >> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and >> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective >> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication >> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >> distributors. >> > > > > -- > Jessica Rosner > Media Consultant > 224-545-3897 (cell) > 212-627-1785 (land line) > [email protected] > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues > relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, > preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and > related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective > working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication > between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and > distributors. > -- David Dvorchak Office Manager Providence Community Library [email protected] (401) 467-2700 x2 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
