I am afraid the focus on feature films is my fault Bob. I will be
honest, I focus on features because to me it makes it even clearer
that the people pushing the "best practices" and other similar views
on "fair use" (and that there is no limit to amount you can use) often
want to justify streaming of entire films without any regard to
rights and use. The term "educational " film really does not have any
legal meaning however in the case of the TEACH ACT ( which I believe
is the only area where this applies) films made exclusively for
instruction are an exempt class but then so are all fiction films. In
terms of the financial damage one could argue that the streaming a
more costly "educational" film might be more damaging than a standard
feature film, but I rather doubt it. The core issue remains the claim
that in essence "fair use" is whatever the institution decides it is
and that any use they accept is "tranformative" .

On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Bob Norris <b...@filmideas.com> wrote:
> This may seem like a naive question, but is all the focus on theatrical
> because it is assumed that a program from an educational distributor would
> not qualify under fair use because of the adverse affect upon the potential
> market for or value of the copyrighted work? And if this is true, would that
> extend to segments of a program if the distributors sells digital segments
> of the program?
>
> I think Film Ideas would be willing to agree its license agreements shall
> not supersede the rights already granted to users under copyright law.
> Although, if we cannot agree on what the law states, I'm not sure how much
> weight that statement carries.
>
> Bob Norris
> Managing Director
> Film Ideas, Inc.
> Phone: (847) 419-0255
> Email: b...@filmideas.com
>
> On Feb 6, 2012, at 1:16 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote:
>
>
> From: "Simpkins, Terry W." <tsimp...@middlebury.edu>
> Date: February 6, 2012 12:41:16 PM CST
> To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" <videolib@lists.berkeley.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Videolib] ACRL Best Practices
> Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
>
>
> Hello everyone,
> Jessica Rosner asks "If you ... are sincere that you are not the enemy of
> content owners, how bout a simple and CLEAR statement that "fair use' does
> NOT cover the use of feature material being assigned to classes."
>
> I am not one of the authors of the guidelines, but I can imagine that one
> reason they might be uncomfortable with such a statement is because, well,
> it has no basis in the law.  We all know the drill by heart, don't we?  Each
> fair use decision includes a judgment about the nature of the use (perhaps
> "assigned to class," in a non-profit setting), the nature of the work
> (perhaps "feature material"), the amount being used (perhaps the whole film,
> perhaps not), and the effect on the market (perhaps a large negative effect,
> perhaps it will stimulate interest and sales).  The law deliberately
> requires us to reflect on each of these aspects.  It is not a mere
> check-list that makes simplistic assertions about whether using one
> highly-generalized type of material ("feature films") in another highly
> generalized setting ("classes") is, or is not, fair use.  Why on earth would
> librarians and educators (or any sane individual, for that matter)
> voluntarily limit rights granted to us by law?  If the law was intended to
> exempt "feature materials" from the fair use provisions in this manner, I am
> confident it would have been written to say that. Perhaps content owners
> might make a similarly "simple and clear statement" saying that license
> agreements shall not under any circumstances supersede the rights already
> granted to users under the fair use, or any other, provision of the
> copyright law, just to "prove" they are not the "enemy" of education.
>
> The law as written does not protect those librarians, students, faculty, or
> administrators who seek to use fair use as a shield to avoid buying
> sufficient licensed or legally acquired copies.  I'm sure there are folks
> out there, possibly even on this list, who do that.  There are unethical
> practitioners in every field - yes, including librarians, educators, and
> even media distributors - but the law already prohibits, for example,
> showing a film in a public setting without permission just because someone
> wants to save on licensing fees.
>
> Oh, and my understanding about books is that, when it comes to fair use, the
> same factors apply.  As far as I know, there is no blanket legal prohibition
> on libraries scanning an entire book and posting it online.  Using the
> entire work, whether in the case of a film or a book, certainly and
> appropriately makes satisfying the fair use test that much more difficult.
>  But it does not automatically render it impossible, however much Ms. Rosner
> or anyone else would like it to be so.
>
> Terry
>
> Terry Simpkins
> Director, Research and Collection Services
> Library & Information Services
> Middlebury College, Middlebury, VT 05753
> (802) 443-5045
>
>
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> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
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