You're probably talking about Howard, Jessica.  Stop it, already...you're
obsessing.

The project has a very competent and level-headed media lawyer on board,
and we're taking our cues from him.

Gary



> Well Gary all I can say is you have someone and their institution
> (NYU) who don't believe that. I can't really repeat some of the things
> I know but I will go out on a limb and say NYU has routinely streamed
> films many of which were not from standard legal sources so having
> them as a top member or whatever to me is like having waste management
> determining environmental rules.  I take no issue with trying to
> determine if libraries contain unique materials that need to be
> preserved, but it strikes me that is a very straight forward issue. Is
> it in fact your understanding that it this project is in fact for
> goal of finding and preserving unique copies and not the ability to
> copy materials that are merely rare or out of print? I will believe
> you and drop it if that is what you say.
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:56 PM,  <ghand...@library.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>> Jessica, don't make me come over there and...
>>
>> What makes you think we're gonna be perfunctory in doing due diligence?
>> Yes...we have developed a fairly elaborate template which takes a search
>> thru thorough online searches in a number of databases; vendor sites;
>> contacting producer and/or director (including LinkedIn and Facebook
>> searches); copyright office searches...more
>>
>> The films we're dealing with are all non-theatrical...
>>
>> We are largely invoking provisions of Section 108 (not fair
>> use--although
>> fair use could come into play)
>>
>> Keep calm and carry on.
>>
>> gary
>>
>>
>>> Gary.
>>> I know I have mentioned this before but never directly asked you, is it
>>> your belief that in determining if an item is rare and should be
>>> "preserved"  that no effort should ever be made to contact the rights
>>> holder/filmmaker? I ask because that is exactly what one of the top NYU
>>> people told a group of librarians at ALA meeting a few years ago and
>>> that
>>> is a key reason I have so little trust in the "code", this project and
>>> to
>>> be honest acedemic libraries. I think it sums up the entire attitude of
>>> the
>>> ARL code of basically under no circumstances involve or consult with
>>> rights
>>> holders on the material they own or made because they are the enemy.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:36 AM, <ghand...@library.berkeley.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Debra
>>>>
>>>> Berkeley is a principle partner in this project (along with NYU).  A
>>>> significant part of the project will be identifying materials in
>>>> collections which are eligible for reformatting, primarily under the
>>>> provisions of Section 108, but possibly under the mantle of fair use,
>>>> as
>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>> None of us on the project have had contact with the developers of the
>>>> ARL
>>>> code (to my knowledge).
>>>>
>>>> gary
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Hi-
>>>> >
>>>> > Does anyone know if the Video at Risk project (dealing with
>>>> reformatting
>>>> > of VHS tapes)  has a relationship with the new ARL "Code of Best
>>>> > Practices" undertaking ? Have there been a conversation between
>>>> these
>>>> > parties?
>>>> >
>>>> > Just Curious.
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks.
>>>> > Debra
>>>> >
>>>> > Debra H. Mandel,
>>>> > Head, Digital Media Design Studio
>>>> > Northeastern University Libraries
>>>> > 360 Huntington Ave.
>>>> > 200 SL
>>>> > Boston,  MA 02115
>>>> > 617-373-4902;  617-373-5409-Fax
>>>> >
>>>> > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
>>>> > issues relating to the selection, evaluation,
>>>> acquisition,bibliographic
>>>> > control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats
>>>> in
>>>> > libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will
>>>> serve
>>>> > as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a
>>>> channel
>>>> of
>>>> > communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
>>>> > producers and distributors.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gary Handman
>>>> Director
>>>> Media Resources Center
>>>> Moffitt Library
>>>> UC Berkeley
>>>>
>>>> 510-643-8566
>>>> ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
>>>> http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC
>>>>
>>>> "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself."
>>>> --Francois Truffaut
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
>>>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation,
>>>> acquisition,bibliographic
>>>> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats
>>>> in
>>>> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will
>>>> serve
>>>> as
>>>> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel
>>>> of
>>>> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
>>>> producers and distributors.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jessica Rosner
>>> Media Consultant
>>> 224-545-3897 (cell)
>>> 212-627-1785 (land line)
>>> jessicapros...@gmail.com
>>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
>>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
>>> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
>>> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will
>>> serve
>>> as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel
>>> of
>>> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
>>> producers and distributors.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Gary Handman
>> Director
>> Media Resources Center
>> Moffitt Library
>> UC Berkeley
>>
>> 510-643-8566
>> ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
>> http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC
>>
>> "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself."
>> --Francois Truffaut
>>
>>
>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
>> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
>> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve
>> as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel
>> of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
>> producers and distributors.
>
>
>
> --
> Jessica Rosner
> Media Consultant
> 224-545-3897 (cell)
> 212-627-1785 (land line)
> jessicapros...@gmail.com
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve
> as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> producers and distributors.
>


Gary Handman
Director
Media Resources Center
Moffitt Library
UC Berkeley

510-643-8566
ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC

"I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself."
--Francois Truffaut


VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

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