Hi, Judy.

Thank you for clarifying what I was actually asking!   I obviously did not give 
enough details for everyone to understand me!!

I am aware of what needs to be done to have faculty create online courses 
legally.  I really just wanted to see if we could use the faculty's legally 
attained dvd for the purposes of digitization after we had received permission 
to digitize it on a password-protected, authenticated course management system. 
 I think that should the situation arise again, I will include your idea of 
asking if we can use the faculty's copy when directly dealing with the rights 
holder.  For virtually everything else this professor wants to use, we have or 
are getting actual copies for the collection.

As it is, just before you wrote, I heard from the producer asking me if the AV 
Library had a copy of the documentary.  She offered to sell me one!  And so, as 
I said on the list yesterday, we are purchasing a copy for the library to be 
used in the digitization.

And no, Gary, I never said that the documentary was not generally available! I 
can get it from one of our regular vendors as well as from the producer.  I was 
just trying to save a few dollars, which I can't in this case!!

ML
Mary Lou Neighbour
AV Librarian/Assistant Professor
Montgomery County Community College
340 DeKalb Pike
Blue Bell, PA 19422
[email protected]  215-619-7355







From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Shoaf,Judith P
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 11:10 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Faculty's personally owned copies and digitization

I wanted to reply to this because nobody seems to be paying attention to what 
Mary Lou actually says:

I am appealing to the collective wisdom of the list!  I am helping a dance 
professor put together an online course on the history of dance.  She is using 
multiple library resources - some will be entire programs with permissions, 
some will be entire programs with licensing fees, and others will be fair use 
excerpts.

So she is saying that there are 3 categories of items to be used:
Entire programs WITH PERMISSIONS
Entire programs WITH LICENSING FEES
Fair use EXCERPTS.

This has nothing to do with streaming an entire program without 
permissions/licensing. Mary Lou seems to have a clear grasp of the difference 
between a legal and an illegal copy. The question is whether she can use a 
lawfully acquired (i.e. not taped off TV) copy that does not belong to the 
library as the basis of digital materials for educational purposes.

My thought is this: she needs to specify when she asks for the permissions and 
licensing fees for the entire programs whether the library can use a 
privately-purchased copy as the basis for the digital version. In the case of 
the items she describes, where she has permission, surely she could ask the 
same source for permission to use the instructor's copy.

But with respect to the clips, which would be governed by fair use, surely the 
Rulemaking of 2009, which Gary was so instrumental in obtaining, would be a 
useful guide:

Motion pictures on DVDs that are lawfully made and acquired and that are 
protected by the Content Scrambling System when circumvention is accomplished 
solely in order to accomplish the incorporation of short portions of motion 
pictures into new works for the purpose of criticism or comment, and where the 
person engaging in circumvention believes and has reasonable grounds for 
believing that circumvention is necessary to fulfill the purpose of the use in 
the following instances:

(i)  Educational uses by college and university professors and by college and 
university film and media studies students; (2 other situations)
http://www.copyright.gov/1201/2010/

By way of contrast with the rulemaking of 2006,  where it was specified that 
clips can be made only from "Audiovisual works included in the educational 
library of a college or university's film or media studies department," this 
pronouncement does not specify that the work has to belong to the educational 
institution. So it seems to me that an instructor's personal copy would be an 
appropriate source for "short portions."

Judy Shoaf


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