Oh no Bob this is very, very different and studios will not agree. It would
be as if iTunes continued to stream all a studios films years or anytime
after its contract expired to new customers. The studios licensed places
like iTunes to stream films to individuals for a specific time frame of the
contract. The person who buys it may have the copy but iTunes can not sell
it to OTHER people years later. With DSL in perpetuity you are licensing an
institution to stream a title to students more or less forever with large
new groups coming in every year and accessing the title in their dorm, off
campus apt, local Starbucks etc. Professors have always been able to use a
legal copy VHS, DVD IN the classroom, they can not stream to the students
elsewhere without a license.

The second part is confusing because again there was always the right to
use it in the classroom they don't need to circumvent anything to do that.
The DMCA initially prevented teachers from taking clips from by
circumventing the DRM and the LOC overruled this and allows circumvention
of PORTIONS of works that would be covered by "fair use" (not face to face)
but this was not about streaming. I would add that the studios fought tooth
and nail AGAINST such a standard academic use and if they fought against
allowing clips to be taken from DVD for academic use, you can be sure they
would never agree to license entire films in perpetuity.  They will only go
for situations were the streaming is allowed for a fixed period and almost
surely ones where they or their subsidiaries control the streaming
directly. Studios unlike most of the folks here NEVER sold a VHS or DVD
with lifetime rights nor in fact to the best of my knowledge did they ever
sell a print for lifetime use. It was always for a fixed period of time and
the end of which the material was supposed to be returned or the contract
renewed ( for additional money). I am not saying this is good, just that it
is the reality.

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Bob Norris <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> A third party, iTunes, is granting the perpetual right to view the
> studio's program if you purchase the download, not rent it. If you buy a
> standard def version and you want the HD version you will need to purchase
> another download. To take the analogy a bit further, what is the difference
> from a professor using a legally purchased DVD with home video rights in a
> face-to-face teaching situation and the professor using a digital file
> where the DRM has not been circumvented to teach within the classroom?
> Unless the Digital Millennium Copyright Act makes some distinction, I would
> think the digital version could be used in class until the file becomes
> corrupt or obsolete.
>
> >
> > Bob
> > Individual rights to download or watch are completely different from the
> right to allow a third party to stream it forever. I can not envision a
> scenario in which the studios will ever agree to this. I can easily see
> them setting up their own or even a shared system to allow non download
> viewing for specific periods of time but I can never imagine them doing the
> other. Maybe about the same time they agree to sell Regal theaters the
> rights to show the Wizard of Oz in perpetuity.
> >
> > In any event studio titles are rarely the ones we are discussing I just
> want to point out that one should not expect to be able to buy CITIZEN KANE
> for perpetual streaming.
> >
>
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