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Susan Brown Librarian, Adult Services Ypsilanti District Library 5577 Whittaker Road Ypsilanti, MI 48197 [email protected] (734)482-4110 ext. 1374 ______________________ If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need. ~Cicero -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 3:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 64, Issue 19 Send videolib mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/[email protected] or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of videolib digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: UCLA has announced NewsScape an online archive of newscasts since 2005 from around the world (Fisher, Matthew (HBO)) 2. Re: UCLA has announced NewsScape an online archive of newscasts since 2005 from around the world (John Streepy) 3. Never mind! RE: Help identifying documentary about South American youth helping elderly? (Susan Albrecht) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:55:45 +0000 From: "Fisher, Matthew (HBO)" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Videolib] UCLA has announced NewsScape an online archive of newscasts since 2005 from around the world To: "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <f77aeb888f9d8b4c8409d2dd98cbf8b916cb9...@w8nyex05mb.hbo.homebox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Judy- As someone who works in clip licensing, I'd have to respectfully disagree with your assessment of there being no market for old newscasts. Many productions of all sorts, though perhaps most prominently, documentaries - including ones I have licensed to, as well as ones that I have helped with rights & clearances - do use this content. Those license fees often help to pay for people's jobs and the maintenance of archival collections. I am not familiar with UCLA's policies, but speaking to IA's TV News site, while they do list a copyright holder for clips, they also allow anyone to "borrow" a DVD recording of the content for as low as $25. IA does not represent any copyright to whomever "borrows" the DVD, but there is nothing in place to prevent someone from using the footage on that DVD in whatever manner they want, including in a production. Regarding factor 4 of Fair Use, if there was no market for old newscasts, then it wouldn't make sense to me why they would charge people to borrow the content on a DVD (I can't imagine it takes $25 to cover costs of making a DVD copy and sticking it in an envelope), I'd have less of an issue if the only way to access the content was free/open internet streaming access. Just my two cents. Matthew Fisher HBO Archives -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Shoaf,Judith P Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 12:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Videolib] UCLA has announced NewsScape an online archive of newscasts since 2005 from around the world . Are newscasts somehow less protected than other copyrighted works? Neither the UCLA or Internet Archive site say anything about agreements with the news networks. Chris Lewis *************** Yes, newscasts are less protected than other copyrighted works. Creative works have more protection than statements of fact (or even purported statements of fact). This is the second of the 4 factors for fair use. the purpose and character of your use the nature of the copyrighted work the amount and substantiality of the portion taken, and the effect of the use upon the potential market. UCLA has factor 1 in its favor (educational), factor 2 somewhat in its favor, factor 4 in its favor (there is, so far as I know, no market whatsoever for old newscasts). I guess they felt that they could go for broke on the third factor. Also, if this provides text searches it adds a new functionality ("transformative platform") to the originals, and the HathiTrust case (where a judge approved of posting the results of searches of as much digital text as the universities could manage, irrespective of factor 2) would support that. 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Thank you. --------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 09:52:38 -0700 From: John Streepy <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Videolib] UCLA has announced NewsScape an online archive of newscasts since 2005 from around the world To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" They could be interpreting that the newscast is the whole unit, and each segment in the newscast is in essence a chapter. I have not seen how they are offering this but if you look at it this way, and perform a search, you would not get the whole newsbroadcast but a portion and thus have section 3 also somewhat in their favor. just my inflation adjuested $0.02 on the matter. regards jhs John H. Streepy Library-Government Publications James E. Brooks Library Central Washington University 400 East University Way Ellensburg, WA 98926-7548 (509) 963-2861 http://www.lib.cwu.edu/Documents "Hand to hand combat just goes with the territory. All part of being a librarian" -- James Turner "Rex Libris" Transitus profusum est nocens! >>> "Shoaf,Judith P" <[email protected]> 3/11/2013 9:29 AM >>> . Are newscasts somehow less protected than other copyrighted works? Neither the UCLA or Internet Archive site say anything about agreements with the news networks. Chris Lewis *************** Yes, newscasts are less protected than other copyrighted works. Creative works have more protection than statements of fact (or even purported statements of fact). This is the second of the 4 factors for fair use. the purpose and character of your use the nature of the copyrighted work the amount and substantiality of the portion taken, and the effect of the use upon the potential market. UCLA has factor 1 in its favor (educational), factor 2 somewhat in its favor, factor 4 in its favor (there is, so far as I know, no market whatsoever for old newscasts). I guess they felt that they could go for broke on the third factor. Also, if this provides text searches it adds a new functionality ("transformative platform") to the originals, and the HathiTrust case (where a judge approved of posting the results of searches of as much digital text as the universities could manage, irrespective of factor 2) would support that. Judy Shoaf VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 17:31:09 +0000 From: Susan Albrecht <[email protected]> Subject: [Videolib] Never mind! RE: Help identifying documentary about South American youth helping elderly? To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <f1b8e9be1c318848bec07a8bd721d616176...@ex2010mailstore.wabash.main> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Figures - as soon as I give up and turn to you all, the person who asked about it found it. Only 2 libraries own the thing, and IMDb doesn't even have a record of it. It's called Little Colombian Angel or The Little Angel of Colombia. Can be seen in its entirety here: http://youtu.be/06MS6IzXGgk Thanks anyway! Susan From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Susan Albrecht Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 12:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Videolib] Help identifying documentary about South American youth helping elderly? Here's the person's recollection. A second person felt certain that it was filmed in Colombia. I'm drawing blanks. "Some years back--at least 10--I watched an amazing documentary on TV. It probably was on a PBS station but I don't know that for certain. It was about a young Latin American boy--again, I don't know if he was from Mexico, Central or South America--who helped the elderly in his village. I think he started by bringing food to an old woman who was eating out of the garbage. He began to do it regularly, and then he started helping her in other ways. And then he started helping other poor elderly people, and he enlisted the help of other children to help them. They brought them food, helped bathe them, got them together for social stimulation (there were weekly dances, organized by this boy.) The children did this before and after school. Being part of the group that helped the older people was a badge of honor--parents wanted their children to be a part of it, and the boy would only let them help if they did well in school, and if they could be counted on. It was one of the most amazing things I'd ever seen--this child was amazing. At the end, the film maker visits the village again, maybe 10 years later. The boy is a young man, and he has established a home for the elderly, where they are getting the care that they need. This is driving me crazy. I have searched and searched and cannot figure out why this documentary is eluding me." Any tips would be greatly appreciated. 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