If you only need to use it in class and do not need to stream, you MIGHT
find someone at HBO friendly enough to agree. The contract issue comes into
play when money is involved and my guess is HBO probably does not even know
about the restriction on  for profit schools. Alas I don't have a contact
there but I did meet someone at the copyright seminar in Columbia who
seemed to deal with educational use but not sure I can dig it up for a week
as I am leaving town.

for actual public shows it can be a nightmare but I honestly think you can
find someone who gets it at HBO if it only for in class use.

The short version is that most made for tv productions are done with a type
of union contract that does not cover public shows, if they wanted to
include that it would just be cost prohibitive. Some of the docs especially
those they want for Academy consideration do play theatrically ( though
there are often contractual limits on the number of venues) so they are
actually easier to clear than fiction material.

Good luck


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Victoria Sciuk 
<v...@berkeleycollege.edu>wrote:

> Thanks for the info Jessica. I knew they were fictionalized accounts, so
> even though it was only for in-class use to registered students, I was
> afraid it might be more difficult to secure rights than for actual
> documentaries, which are more often available with PPR. But I didn't
> realize the other issues involved with TV movies - that is discouraging...
>
> Vicki
>
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> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 10:53:24 -0400
> From: Jessica Rosner <maddux2...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Videolib] PPR for "You don't know Jack"?
> To: brian Bolling <brian.bol...@temple.edu>,
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> Actually it is not a documentary but there has been for many years a
> problem licensing made for TV films because they use a different standard
> contract than theatrical films and complications in rights can arise. Under
> no circumstances can one ever charge admission and this may in fact  also
> mean that no money at all can be paid which would of course make HBO or
> other companies less than friendly on the subject. I am sure on the
> admission but not 100% sure on the fee issue but either way it is a bitch.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Brian W Boling <brian.bol...@temple.edu
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi Vicki,
> >
> > HBO doesn't currently license its documentaries for streaming and, as you
> > are a for-profit college, you aren't covered for face-to-face screenings
> > under section 110 of Copyright.  If your students are able to access
> > physical reserves in a library, that might be your best option for making
> > these films available.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > Brian Boling
> > Media Services Librarian
> > Temple University Libraries
> > brian.bol...@temple.edu
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 9:05 PM, Victoria Sciuk <v...@berkeleycollege.edu
> >wrote:
> >
> >> I'm new to this list, and couldn't see archives to search for this, so
> >> please bear with me. Two professors want to screen or stream two
> different
> >> HBO Films docudramas in class. They are not available in our Swank/
> Digital
> >> Campus, Films on Demand or VAST/Alexander Street. My college is not
> >> non-profit, so I was hoping someone could point me in the direction of
> who
> >> to contact for PPR rights?
> >>
> >> 1) You Don't Know Jack - HBO Films, TV docudrama about Jack Kevorkian,
> >> starring Al Pacino. (DVDs distributed by Warner Home Video).
> >> 2) Too Big to Fail - HBO Films. TV docudrama about 2008 financial crisis
> >> and decision on bank bailouts (DVDs distributed by Warner Home Video).
> >>
> >>  Any suggestions are greatly appreciated!
> >>
> >> Thanks, Vicki
> >>
> >> Vicki Sciuk, MLS
> >> Librarian, Dover Campus
> >> Berkeley College
> >> 1 W. Blackwell St.
> >> Dover, NJ 07801
> >> 973-366-6700 x5656
> >> v...@berkeleycollege.edu
>
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