If they are licensed separately it should work but this is why the online licensing is maddening for both sides. I have honestly worked VERY hard to convince filmmakers I work with to "let go" and accept a one time fee for a school to stream a film in perpetuity but they are freaking out at the idea that it could extend both all over the country and outside the US and these are people who own all the rights. I think it would be really helpful if we could work on mutually acceptable language. Like I said these folks are not concerned about a student on vacation outside the US or a distance ed class with 25 students where some are out of state but they are terrified of licensing streaming rights and having a school offering classes throughout the country and the world.
I don't know if there is a magic number or wording anyone can think of but this a very real problem. I have a major title for the educational market almost ready to sell ( some of you can guess as you have been patiently waiting) but while the rights holder is generally amenable to selling streaming, PPR etc getting the language right has been a huge issue. I had to fight just an understanding that schools had to be able to loan materials on inter library loan. Suggestions anyone? On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Brewer, Michael < [email protected]> wrote: > MOOCs do pose a lot of problems because common educational exceptions do > not generally apply. However, they also offer content holders or > distributors access to a potential audience/market. If these courses are > all "open" (pretty much free), then people may not balk at shelling out > some money for texts or access to content needed for the course. I believe > there are a number of textbook publishers that are offering their content > to MOOC takers for free (limited access) and then hoping that some of them > will purchase the text for perpetual access after the MOOC ends. Film > complicates things quite a bit, but I still think there could be potential > for a market of some kind in the future. > > mb > > On Feb 21, 2014, at 10:00 AM, Shoaf,Judith P wrote: > > > Nahum is worried about > > "Universities that have online courses for people that just take a one > time course (MOOC) and in fact not registered students learning for a > degree." > > > > It seems to me that these Massively Open Online Courses, which are > available to anyone at all, do in fact pose a huge problem for educators. > They don't fit the definition of classroom use at all. It seems to me that > some kinds of classes simply can't be taught that way because they require > extensive copyright infringements (e.g. film history!). Moreover, using a > recent documentary to teach a subject amounts pretty much to streaming that > documentary to the public. > > > > Is anyone worrying about this or is the whole thing too new/possibly > ephemeral? > > > > Judy Shoaf > > > > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of > issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic > control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in > libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as > an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of > communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video > producers and distributors. > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of > issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic > control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in > libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as > an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of > communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video > producers and distributors. >
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
