Thanks Barb, Ironically, I went through the same WGBH Open Vault process last month placing a request for "Do Scientists Cheat?" to be digitized. Alas, after I learned about the fees, given that the instructor preferred DVD, I opted not to pursue it. I like your suggestion and will be very interested to see how this crowdsourcing model plays out.
Best, Scott On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:21 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Send videolib mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/[email protected] > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of videolib digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. WGBH Open Vault project (Bergman, Barbara J) > 2. Re: Video-on-Demand Children?s TV Programming Now Accessible > (Bob Norris) > 3. Re: WGBH Open Vault project (Threatt, Monique Louise) > 4. Re: WGBH Open Vault project (Threatt, Monique Louise) > 5. Re: National Theatre Live productions (Jessica Rosner) > 6. Re: WGBH Open Vault project (Bergman, Barbara J) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 14:41:56 +0000 > From: "Bergman, Barbara J" <[email protected]> > Subject: [Videolib] WGBH Open Vault project > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > < > by1pr0501mb117550e16a33b5c8fa7591bb9a...@by1pr0501mb1175.namprd05.prod.outlook.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi folks, > Thought this would be of interest. While checking on the availability of > Deadly Deception (again), I learned about WGBH's Open Vault project. > So I made a digitization request. > The additional info they sent was that there is a $60 research fee to > confirm if they can make the program available online. > If the answer is yes, there's a fee in the range of $250-$300. And then > the program gets loaded online for the world to view. > My boss was cool with us paying the research fee. I'll let you know what I > hear back re Deadly Deception. > > We might want to brainstorm what other titles we'd really like to see > available again. > > Remember Rock and Roll series? The artist interviews are posted (I'm sure > everything with music in it was much too complicated/expensive). > > http://openvault.wgbh.org/ > User Funded Digitization > We're happy to announce that the first Open Vault user funded digitization > of a program has been completed and is now available to listen to online! > The program audio comes from the series, The Advocates episode 103 "Should > the Law Permit Voluntary Euthanasia for the Terminally Ill?" You can access > the program audio by clicking this link. If you haven't tried requesting > digitization or transcription of a program, it's easy! First register for a > free Open Vault account and login. Then search for a record of interest and > click the "Request Digitization" or "Request Transcript" button. That's > it! You will then receive more information about your request via email > from WGBH. > > Barb Bergman | Media Services & Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota > State University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. > HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 09:50:47 -0500 > From: Bob Norris <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Video-on-Demand Children?s TV Programming Now > Accessible > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Thanks for the heads up Cathy, > > DCMP included one of Film Ideas series. I'll send them a letter of thanks > for including us with such good company. > > Regards, > Bob > > > > > From: Cathy Michael <[email protected]> > > Date: March 17, 2015 9:09:32 AM CDT > > To: "Educ. & Behavior Science ALA Discussion List" < > [email protected]>, [email protected], > [email protected] > > Subject: [Videolib] Fwd: Video-on-Demand Children?s TV Programming Now > Accessible for Thousands of Students with Visual or Hearing Disabilities | > U.S. Department of Education > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > > > > > Good morning: > > > > Was just reading this press release and thought I'd pass it along: > > > > The U.S. Department of Education today announced the availability of > free, video-on-demand children?s television programming for thousands of > students who are blind, visually impaired, deaf or hard of hearing. > > > http://www.ed.gov/news/press-releases/video-demand-children%E2%80%99s-tv-programming-now-accessible-thousands-students-visual-or-hearing-disabilities > > > > Best, > > > > Cathy > > > > > > > > From: Jo Ann Reynolds <[email protected]> > > Date: March 17, 2015 9:10:29 AM CDT > > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Looking for annual data on video circulation in > academic libraries > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > > > > > It is, indeed, a very interesting question since different vendors count > views or engagement differently. I was recently looking closely at > views/engagement for some streams from different vendors for a course and > comparing vendor data with data from Ares. The Ares data shows user id by > date/time. When you look at this level of granularity you see multiple hits > by the same user within very short periods of time, sometimes 10 hits or > more in a minute. Clearly they are not watching a full film in that short > space of time nor are they gaining a meaningful browse or ?engagement?. > This type of data must be taken with a grain of salt. Someone should be > able to devise an algorithm based on data (patron behavior, hit length, and > computer issues) that could be applied to the hit data to provide a more > realistic picture of what patrons are actually watching. > > > > Engagement, depending on how it is defined by the vendor, is probably a > better measure but still requires some framing. For me, engagement would > have to be at least 15% or more of the total run time. Certainly not a hit > of 30 seconds or less, even a couple of minutes for a two hour films is > questionable. And, if, over time, a film never shows that it is watched in > its entirety, should we be paying full price or purchasing access to the > desired clip? Or, dare I say it?, claiming fair use instead. > > > > We need to ask vendors pointed questions about the data they are > supplying us. Vendors need to be very transparent about that data > collection and presentation process in order to avoid being labeled as the > fox guarding the henhouse . > > > > What data are you counting? Hits to a url or some percentage of the > total film length a user spent with a film (engagement)? > > If its number of minutes watched, what percentage of the total films did > those minute comprise? > > How do you define engagement? > > How many different users engaged? > > What was the date range of the engagement/hits? > > What was the last date of engagement/hits? > > Were the hits/engagement all for the same portion of the film (clips vs. > watching a film)? > > > > Streams are expensive and I am sure we are not the only library to be > taking budget hits. We need to be sure we are paying for streams our > patrons are actually watching and not just browsing or pinging on trying to > get them to load, or some other computer issue that is clouding patron use. > > > > I would advocate for a different model altogether, purchase of streams > outright for a reasonable price the way we purchased VHS, then DVD. Actual > ownership of the format until it changes to a new format. Then all this > counting could be amortized over a much longer period of time, the enormous > and expensive investment libraries make in purchasing licenses, tracking > licenses, and renewing licenses could be better spent on other activities. > And perhaps we would have the time to devise an automated way to track > patron viewing behavior that would provide us with meaningful and reliable > data on which to base purchase decisions. > > > > Jo Ann > > > > Jo Ann Reynolds > > Reserve Services Coordinator > > University of Connecticut > > Homer Babbidge Library > > 369 Fairfield Road, Unit 1005RR > > Storrs, CT 06269-1005 > > 860-486-1406 voice > > 860-486-0584 fax > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Sarah E. McCleskey > > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 4:34 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Looking for annual data on video circulation in > academic libraries > > > > I think Jonathan asks a very interesting question. The different > platforms for streaming report ?engagement? or how long someone viewed the > content, with varying degrees of granularity. But I know that for us hard > copy circulation is steadily declining and streaming use is growing every > year. Unfortunately our hard copy collection also took an accessibility hit > a couple of years ago when I had to reduce hours in the Film and Media > Library, because of a rather unexpected staff loss due to a layoff. So I > think the physical collection has had several strikes against it. I have > hatched a scheme to move the physical collection back to the main library > for greater accessibility, but that may not come to fruition for several > years. > > > > Accordingly, I am adding fewer and fewer DVDs and more and more > streaming titles. > > > > Sarah > > > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Jonathan Miller > > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 4:20 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Looking for annual data on video circulation in > academic libraries > > > > Dear Jane > > > > How do you determine a streaming ?circulation? ? is that like a view, > and if so for how long a time (30 seconds, 2 minutes etc)? > > > > Also if I read your graph correctly, hard copy circulation since 2010 is > basically flat, and in fact from 2013 to 2014 it went up, and more or less > just as much as streaming went up? > > > > Best > > > > Jonathan > > > > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Wochna, Lorraine > > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 4:07 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Looking for annual data on video circulation in > academic libraries > > > > Thanks Jane and Chris, > > > > I am working on the same project at Ohio U in order to make my case for > streaming services, along with providing enough data to show that we need a > general fund for purchasing media either in streaming or DVDs. For us, I > don?t think all subject librarians are aware of how much use our collection > gets; so getting stats together will help me raise awareness and promote > collections. > > I?m also trying to put together a ?media team? as we have no official > ?media librarian? (I?m the ?go to/cares about? person and have not updated > our collection policy in quite a while. Lots to gather, but these kinds of > conversations are very useful to me, so thank you. > > > > Best, > > lorraine > > > > lorraine wochna > > Reference & Instruction librarian > > Alden Library, 2nd floor > > Ohio University > > Athens OH 45701 > > W 740-597-1238 > > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Hutchison, Jane > > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 3:20 PM > > To: '[email protected]' > > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Looking for annual data on video circulation in > academic libraries > > > > You can see where our circulation is heading at William Paterson > University. We have invested much in building our streaming titles and > through a careful collection development plan, we have been purchasing > individual titles that are requested or identified that support the > curriculum. > > > > <image001.png> > > Regards, Jane > > > > Jane B. Hutchison > > Associate Director > > Instruction & Research Technology > > 300 Pompton Road > > Wayne, NJ 07470 > > (w)973-720-2980 > > (cell) 973-418-7727 > > > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Lewis > > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 3:10 PM > > To: Videolib > > Subject: [Videolib] Looking for annual data on video circulation in > academic libraries > > > > I know the general trend is declining based on the growth of > Amazon/Netflix/iTunes and YouTube but I'd like to get some numbers for > comparison to our trend locally. > > > > If you are willing to share and prefer to do it privately I will > reciprocate. > > > > -- > > Chris Lewis American University Library 202.885.3257 > > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. > HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 15:00:08 +0000 > From: "Threatt, Monique Louise" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Videolib] WGBH Open Vault project > To: "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > < > c340d6880f1f7b40b7787eb158fe37fc4c018...@iu-mssg-mbx107.ads.iu.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Thanks for sharing, Barb. This looks like a wonderful project. > > If I understand this correctly, only a few items are currently free and > open to the public. > > However, a more specific request can cost you upwards of $360 for access, > and for how long? > > Best, > Mo > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Bergman, Barbara J > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 10:42 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Videolib] WGBH Open Vault project > > Hi folks, > Thought this would be of interest. While checking on the availability of > Deadly Deception (again), I learned about WGBH's Open Vault project. > So I made a digitization request. > The additional info they sent was that there is a $60 research fee to > confirm if they can make the program available online. > If the answer is yes, there's a fee in the range of $250-$300. And then > the program gets loaded online for the world to view. > My boss was cool with us paying the research fee. I'll let you know what I > hear back re Deadly Deception. > > We might want to brainstorm what other titles we'd really like to see > available again. > > Remember Rock and Roll series? The artist interviews are posted (I'm sure > everything with music in it was much too complicated/expensive). > > http://openvault.wgbh.org/ > User Funded Digitization > We're happy to announce that the first Open Vault user funded digitization > of a program has been completed and is now available to listen to online! > The program audio comes from the series, The Advocates episode 103 "Should > the Law Permit Voluntary Euthanasia for the Terminally Ill?" You can access > the program audio by clicking this link. If you haven't tried requesting > digitization or transcription of a program, it's easy! First register for a > free Open Vault account and login. Then search for a record of interest and > click the "Request Digitization" or "Request Transcript" button. That's > it! You will then receive more information about your request via email > from WGBH. > > Barb Bergman | Media Services & Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota > State University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. > HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 15:08:16 +0000 > From: "Threatt, Monique Louise" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Videolib] WGBH Open Vault project > To: "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > < > c340d6880f1f7b40b7787eb158fe37fc4c018...@iu-mssg-mbx107.ads.iu.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Retracting my comment about how long. > > What I'm hearing is that if an institution, or consortium agrees to pay > the research fee, and the cost to upload the film (if available for > digitization), then the whole world has access to that film? > > Hmm, I'd be willing to possibly contribute a small amount to this project > if other institutions are interested. > > Best, > Mo > > From: Threatt, Monique Louise > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 11:00 AM > To: '[email protected]' > Subject: RE: WGBH Open Vault project > > Thanks for sharing, Barb. This looks like a wonderful project. > > If I understand this correctly, only a few items are currently free and > open to the public. > > However, a more specific request can cost you upwards of $360 for access, > and for how long? > > Best, > Mo > > > > From: [email protected]<mailto: > [email protected]> [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Bergman, Barbara J > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 10:42 AM > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: [Videolib] WGBH Open Vault project > > Hi folks, > Thought this would be of interest. While checking on the availability of > Deadly Deception (again), I learned about WGBH's Open Vault project. > So I made a digitization request. > The additional info they sent was that there is a $60 research fee to > confirm if they can make the program available online. > If the answer is yes, there's a fee in the range of $250-$300. And then > the program gets loaded online for the world to view. > My boss was cool with us paying the research fee. I'll let you know what I > hear back re Deadly Deception. > > We might want to brainstorm what other titles we'd really like to see > available again. > > Remember Rock and Roll series? The artist interviews are posted (I'm sure > everything with music in it was much too complicated/expensive). > > http://openvault.wgbh.org/ > User Funded Digitization > We're happy to announce that the first Open Vault user funded digitization > of a program has been completed and is now available to listen to online! > The program audio comes from the series, The Advocates episode 103 "Should > the Law Permit Voluntary Euthanasia for the Terminally Ill?" You can access > the program audio by clicking this link. If you haven't tried requesting > digitization or transcription of a program, it's easy! First register for a > free Open Vault account and login. Then search for a record of interest and > click the "Request Digitization" or "Request Transcript" button. That's > it! You will then receive more information about your request via email > from WGBH. > > Barb Bergman | Media Services & Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota > State University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. > HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 11:08:47 -0400 > From: Jessica Rosner <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Videolib] National Theatre Live productions > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <CACRe6m8QB= > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I sincerely doubt it. I don't see most of the event content on DVD. I could > get you the contact for the folks who do it in the theaters but I doubt > they can help. > > I am sure that there would be far more rights issues clearing it for DVD or > streaming than a special theatrical event and that probably reduces the > likleyhood. > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 7:32 AM, Matt Ball <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > Does anyone know if the National Theatre Live productions are available > on > > DVD or streaming? I'm especially interested in *The Curious Incident of > > the Dog in the Night-time*. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Matt > > > > ___________________ > > Matt Ball > > Director, Woodruff Library > > Pace Academy > > 966 W. Paces Ferry Rd. > > Atlanta, GA 30327 > > [email protected] > > > > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of > > issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic > > control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in > > libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve > as > > an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of > > communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video > > producers and distributors. > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. > HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 15:21:26 +0000 > From: "Bergman, Barbara J" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Videolib] WGBH Open Vault project > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > < > by1pr0501mb1175a4e82ab018ba656adb109a...@by1pr0501mb1175.namprd05.prod.outlook.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Here's the full message from WGBH rep: > > > > >>The first thing we would need to do is determine if we legally have > > >>the right to make this program available on Open Vault. We do this by > > >>asking for a non-refundable $60.00 payment to conduct rights research. > > >>We do this by reviewing contract and other documents and then consult > > >>our legal department. > > >>If we determine we cannot publish the program on Open Vault, then > > >>unfortunately, you've spent $60.00 to help us determine that. > > >>If we determine we can make the program available then the next step > > >>would be to collect the remaining fee to actually digitize, add > > >>metadata and publish to Open Vault. > > >> > > >>The fee can change depending on the format we have in the Archives for > > >>that specific program. I've quoted prices between $250.00 and $375.00. > > >> > > >>If you would like more information or a more accurate quote, please > > >>let me know. > > >> > > >>Thank you for your interest in Open Vault. > > >>-Mike > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>Michael Muraszko > > >>Digital Archive Manager > > >>WGBH Media Library and Archives > > >>One Guest St. > > >>Boston, MA 02135 > > >>[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > >>617-300-3104 > > > Barb Bergman | Media Services & Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota > State University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > From: Threatt, Monique Louise > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 11:00 AM > To: '[email protected]' > Subject: RE: WGBH Open Vault project > > Thanks for sharing, Barb. This looks like a wonderful project. > > If I understand this correctly, only a few items are currently free and > open to the public. > > However, a more specific request can cost you upwards of $360 for access, > and for how long? > > Best, > Mo > > > > From: [email protected]<mailto: > [email protected]> [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Bergman, Barbara J > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 10:42 AM > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: [Videolib] WGBH Open Vault project > > Hi folks, > Thought this would be of interest. While checking on the availability of > Deadly Deception (again), I learned about WGBH's Open Vault project. > So I made a digitization request. > The additional info they sent was that there is a $60 research fee to > confirm if they can make the program available online. > If the answer is yes, there's a fee in the range of $250-$300. And then > the program gets loaded online for the world to view. > My boss was cool with us paying the research fee. I'll let you know what I > hear back re Deadly Deception. > > We might want to brainstorm what other titles we'd really like to see > available again. > > Remember Rock and Roll series? The artist interviews are posted (I'm sure > everything with music in it was much too complicated/expensive). > > http://openvault.wgbh.org/ > User Funded Digitization > We're happy to announce that the first Open Vault user funded digitization > of a program has been completed and is now available to listen to online! > The program audio comes from the series, The Advocates episode 103 "Should > the Law Permit Voluntary Euthanasia for the Terminally Ill?" You can access > the program audio by clicking this link. If you haven't tried requesting > digitization or transcription of a program, it's easy! First register for a > free Open Vault account and login. Then search for a record of interest and > click the "Request Digitization" or "Request Transcript" button. That's > it! You will then receive more information about your request via email > from WGBH. > > Barb Bergman | Media Services & Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota > State University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. > HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. > > End of videolib Digest, Vol 88, Issue 16 > **************************************** > -- Scott Spicer Media Outreach and Learning Spaces Librarian University of Minnesota Libraries - Twin Cities 341 Walter Library [email protected] 612.626.0629 Media Services: lib.umn.edu/media SMART Learning Commons: lib.umn.edu/smart
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