Hi everybody,

As always, I am not a lawyer, so this should not be construed as constituting 
legal advice! That said, 17 U.S. Code § 
1201(a)(3)(A)<https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/1201> defines 
“circumvent a technological measure” as meaning “to descramble a scrambled 
work, to decrypt an encrypted work, or otherwise to avoid, bypass, remove, 
deactivate, or impair a technological measure, without the authority of the 
copyright owner,” [my emphasis, natch] so it seems pretty clear to me that if 
you have permission from the copyright holder, you aren’t actually 
circumventing the copy protection as defined by the DMCA.

Andy Horbal
Head of Learning Commons
1101 McKeldin Library
University of Maryland
College Park, MD 20742
(301) 405-9227
[email protected]



From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 10:28 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Have permission to copy VHS series to DVD--but cannot 
locate a copy-able tape!

I was thinking the  same thing Sarah but in this case it would not help since 
she needs an entire work but again since she has permission of rights holder 
not really an issue.

Jessica

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Sarah E. McCleskey 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Kathy,

IMHO, that’s really just not true. There are exceptions, for example, when 
breaking encryption is perfectly acceptable.

See http://www.loc.gov/today/pr/2010/10-169.html Those may not be the most up 
to date exceptions as the Librarian of Congress has to issue them again every 3 
years. But you get the point.

Those exemptions specifically refer to DVDs, but goes to show that the blanket 
statement that overriding any type of protection is a violation of the DMCA is 
too broad. There are always exceptions.

Additionally, the actual text of Section 1201 states “(c) Other Rights, Etc., 
Not Affected.—(1) Nothing in this section shall affect rights, remedies, 
limitations, or defenses to copyright infringement, including fair use, under 
this title.” (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/1201)

And the thing is, you have permission from the copyright holder. I think that 
trumps anything in the DMCA.

Sarah



From: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
 On Behalf Of Kathy Edwards
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 1:40 PM

To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Have permission to copy VHS series to DVD--but cannot 
locate a copy-able tape!

Good question.
The direct quote from Head of Digital Scholarship is “Overriding any type of 
copyright protection is a violation of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, 
even if doing so is not an infringement of copyright.”

From: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sarah E. McCleskey
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 11:46 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Have permission to copy VHS series to DVD--but cannot 
locate a copy-able tape!

I don’t understand why overriding the copy protection would be illegal when you 
have permission from the copyright holder???

Sarah


Sarah E. McCleskey
Head of Access Services, Film and Media
112 Axinn Library
123 Hofstra University
Hempstead, NY 11549
516-463-5076<tel:516-463-5076>
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>



From: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kathy Edwards
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 11:05 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [Videolib] Have permission to copy VHS series to DVD--but cannot 
locate a copy-able tape!

Here’s our quandary:
Our university library owns the series Nature Perfected: The Story of the 
Garden, made in 1995. It’s a six-volume set on VHS and not available on DVD or 
in any other format, to the best of my knowledge.

Two of our landscape architecture profs want to continue using these tapes, but 
the tapes are wearing out. We sought and received permission from the copyright 
owner, William Howard Adams, to transfer the content to DVD. He even asked us 
to send him copies on DVD, since he only owned his own series on videotape.

Conversion went well for five of the six tapes, but volume 2 was already too 
worn and stretched—the DVD was useless, as it the tape.

We purchased a replacement for the VHS of volume 2 only to discover that the 
tape is copy-protected—cannot be copied to DVD on any machine we own. There is 
a lab on campus that may be able to bypass the copy protection, but our Digital 
Scholarship librarian says “No—overriding the protection is illegal.”

So I asked Mr Adams to send us his VHS tape of volume 2, in hopes that it could 
be copied (after all, copying our originals was easy—no protections in place on 
those).  Turns out his VHS copy is ALSO copy-protected.

It’s ridiculous to be in the position of having to shop for a non-protected 
copy of a tape we already own, especially since our original copy did not 
present this problem.

What’s the quickest/easiest solution to obtaining a legal DVD of this volume in 
the series?
Are we doing something obviously dumb and dense, that we haven’t figured this 
out? In which case, please reply off-list! (Mr Adams will also be grateful, if 
he gets his own DVD copy out of our efforts.)

TIA,


Kathy Edwards
Research & Collection Development Librarian
Emery A. Gunnin Architecture Library
Clemson University
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
(864) 656-4289<tel:%28864%29%20656-4289>
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