Hi,

I think the reason the issues of PPR keeps coming up is because we don’t have 
solutions yet.  Personally, I would love to see a task force of filmmakers, 
librarians, and higher ed. faculty working together for one.

And there will be a session on PPR at ALA<http://alaac15.ala.org/node/28941>.

Regards,
Laura

Laura Jenemann
Media, Film Studies, and Dance Librarian
George Mason University
703-993-7593
[email protected]

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 6:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Library policy on buying institutional video copies

I don't think you can "opt out" and I doubt you can renegotiate. You can try to 
see if the title is available without PPR rights for a lesser cost usually 
through sales to individuals. It should be noted that there are many films 
almost all non fiction that  basically are educational films and have little or 
no market outside of educational institutions. I personally think things would 
be far less frustrating if these titles were never offered for individual 
sales.It is simply not financially  possible to make these films on rarefied 
topics without selling them for a few hundred bucks to institutions but again 
offering them for individual sales just muddies the waters. I have often worked 
directly with filmmakers and always advised them NOT to offer these kinds of 
films for individual sale. In a few cases we received specific requests often 
from researchers and we made some special accommodation but never listed them 
for sale to individuals.

However there is more confusion and frustration in what I would call films with 
a lot of educational interest but also retail and individual interest. 
Basically you can't really have your cake and eat it too, if a filmmaker or 
distributor wants to make money via retail and individual sales, they are going 
to have to expect institutions to buy it at the lower price unless they have a 
specific need for PPR. In many cases a film is released at higher price during 
the "window'" between its  first release/showings before it is available for 
individual sales  and eventual  retail release for much less, generally in  3- 
6 months. If you want it when it first comes out you pay a premium if you can 
wait, it will be less.

I do think streaming rights offer a solution for some but not all of these 
situations . Need for PPR is rare (though without mentioning titles I work or 
have worked on some that do and should play outside of class) but need for 
streaming is increasing. I would think about negotiating  to get streaming 
rights rather than PPR rights in cases where a title is not available at a 
lower cost.

I think we all want filmmakers and  independent distributors to be able to 
survive and it is  pretty much impossible to do this if specialized mainly non 
fiction work sells for $30 to 100 institutions and 30 individuals. Both sides 
need to work together to find both a pricing and use system that works.

This issue comes up around once a month. Perhaps there could be more 
discussions at ALA and NMM?

Jessica

On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Laura Jenemann 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Anna (and all),

I did want to ask a related question that may help Anna: has anyone 
successfully opted out or renegotiated rights from the major educational film 
distributors who
have their PPR bundled into their educational price?

For example: Film costs $400, for educational/PPR and you have renegotiated for 
X price as educational/no PPR?

Regards,
Laura

Laura Jenemann
Media, Film Studies, and Dance Librarian
George Mason University
703-993-7593<tel:703-993-7593>
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

From: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
 On Behalf Of Anna Simon
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 12:15 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [Videolib] Library policy on buying institutional video copies

Our library is currently re-writing its policy on buying institutional video.  
Under the guidance of our copyright specialist who says that classroom 
screenings fall under fair-use and do not require PPR (which are included in 
most institutional prices), our new policy is to buy the home-use copy of the 
DVD, if available, and not the institutional copy. Of course if a video will be 
screened outside a class, say at a film festival, we will upgrade to a PPR.
At least one distributor has balked at this policy; another actually suggested 
we purchase at the home-use price when I mentioned I couldn't afford to buy all 
the videos I wanted from his company at the institutional price.
Legally this seems sound, but I'm still unsure about ethically. Do other 
libraries have a policy on this spelled out? Do you always buy the 
institutional price/PPR if available, or do you try to source the video at the 
lowest possible price? If you do buy the institutional copy is it because you 
feel you *should* or another reason?
Thanks for sharing.

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Anna Simon
Collection, Research & Instruction Librarian
Art, Film, and Museum Studies
202-687-7467<tel:202-687-7467>
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
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