Dear Farhad
To be clear, we are not discontinuing DVDs, nor are we raising our prices for 
DVDs (in fact for over 35 years we have NEVER raised our prices, just the 
opposite). All we are doing really, in this experiment, is offering to lower 
the total costs for those libraries that do want, for whatever reason, to have 
both, streaming and DVDs.
 We certainly do not want to lose any customers, including you.
And if that turns out to be a result of this experiment, it certainly will be 
an argument against continuing it. I am not sure what that should be the case, 
but we will see!
  Jonathan

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Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 11:35 AM
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Dear Jonathan,



It is unfortunate to see Bullfrog and Icarus Films have decided on losing many 
libraries with small AV budgets as their customers. Only large research 
libraries with big budgets can afford subscriptions to streaming video 
databases or licensing individual titles for a short period of time. This will 
certainly widen the gap between haves and have nots. I don't know why making 
DVDs on demand does not work for your companies and you prefer to loose some of 
your current customers.


Farhad Moshiri, MLS
Post-Masters Advanced Study Certificate
Audiovisual  Librarian
Subject areas: Music, Dance, Copyright issues,
Middle Eastern Studies
University of the Incarnate Word
J.E. & L.E. Mabee Library
4301 Broadway - CPO 297
San Antonio, TX 78209
(210) 829-3842
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 on behalf of Jonathan Miller 
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Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 9:23 AM
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Subject: [Videolib] No more DVDs? - OK / Not

I
've been snowed under by all the responses to my question! And I agree with 
Barb, one of the main things that we've known, but that has been brought home 
again here, is that no one size will fit all. I've been in this business (if it 
is a business) for over 35 years, and one thing I can say for sure: every year 
things get a bit more complicated.

In any case apparent from this discussion is that many of you, while 
acknowledging and, in most cases, accommodating the increasingly pervasive 
transition to digital delivery/streaming, DO want to have at least the option 
of also acquiring DVDs, whether as a back-up to loss of online access, and/or 
for the DVD's utility in its own right - and the notion of subscribing (for one 
 year or three years or whatever short of forever) to individual films, or 
large collections, is a difficult trade off of missions, and money, at best.

Given that we (and I write here on behalf of both Bullfrog Films and Icarus 
Films) are on both sides of a complimentary sword, we have been talking about 
this the last two days, and have thought of an experiment that we would like to 
put forward:

What if, when you license a film for streaming online, or subscribe to an 
entire collection, you could then also acquire any of those films on DVD for 
half price? So, if you were to subscribe to The Docuseek2 Collection, you could 
then buy any Bullfrog Films or Icarus Films DVD, for 50% off, during the entire 
time your license or subscription is in place.

Would this make it practical for more libraries to address both imperatives of 
collection development?  Would it make the tradeoffs a little less difficult?

We've discussed that this may reduce aggregate sales by the "film distribution" 
companies, but it might also make the transitions underway on both sides of the 
equation smoother?

We would like to find out, and so we (both companies) will make this offer 
available until 12/31/15:

Any institution that is currently licensing The Docuseek2 Collection, or 
commits to licensing The Docuseek2 Collection by December 31, 2015 (whether 
with a basic subscription, or via DS2's Evidence Based Acquisition program) 
will be able to purchase, while their license is in force, any title (from 
either Bullfrog Films or Icarus Films) that available from (or added to) The 
Docuseek2 Collection, at half price.

Both companies will leave this offer in place through the end of the year, and 
in January we will evaluate how it went (all of us together, hopefully) and 
whether or not we should continue, modify, or drop this idea.

Look forward to hearing your thoughts on this!

We'll be very interested to see what happens.

Thanks again for all the comments, and best for now.


Jonathan Miller

For Bullfrog Films & Icarus Films









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Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 4:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [Videolib] No more DVDs?

I think the one clear answer we've gotten out of this discussion is that there 
is no one right answer.  Academic libraries are pretty diverse. :)


Barb Bergman | Media Services & Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State 
University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>


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