On 12:27:21 am 12/28/04 Nigel Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Larry Nguyen wrote:
> >  On 8:08:43 pm 12/26/04 Nigel Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> >  Ubuntu is sponsored by a billionaire and Mandrakelinux is not :)
> >  Official downloadable Mandrakelinux ISOs are totally FREE since
> >  day one. They just have 2 versions: non-commercial and commercial
> >  ones. What do you think the public ISOs you could download from
> >  Mandrakelinux ftp mirror? They're not FREE enough? :)
>
> How'd ya feel if a guy say " i'll fixed ur car for free or for 10
> bucks"... Do you feel like there is a "trade-off" issue around here
> :P ... I got that feeling, and i believe most of us do.
> (Some jerks would say "oh well neither I get the car fixed for
> 10bucks nor free" => M$ user who believed "there's nothing for free
> or nearly free; everything has to be bought by money")
>

Here is a simple question: did you have to pay for Mandrakelinux ISOs that
everyone could donwload from official ftp mirrors? Did you have to pay for
using it? Did you have to pay for applying security updates? *All* packages
on the 3 CDs are GPL'ed and are also free as in beer. If you say
Mandrakelinux is NOT free in general then I need to look up what free
means. If you say Mandrakelinux commercial version, the box version that
they add commercial applications, is not FREE then I need to get some
coffee because it is so obvious.


> >> 3> IMHO, "apt" is much better than "urpmi"
>  >
>  >  Ba'c no'i cu. the^? dduoc 0?
>  >
>
> I knew every package kind of things would give u some shot in *ss but
> ... I believe apt is less painful than urpmi :) ... Or oh dear, you
> might get used to urpmi (kidding) ... Let's (vietlug ppl) vote
> "urpmi" && "apt"
>
> To me, I got apt crashed twice in the year for stupid thing ... and
> urpmi crashed more than 10 :). "Why it crashed" u might ask; the
> answer is "due to my careless behaviors". U got what I mean ... user
> always do stupid things hence, the less computer crashed on that, the
> better.

I was just hopping you explain some features in apt that are not available
in urpmi so I could learn. 

All the package management tools have their limits. As far as I know, you
can't apt-get multiple times concurrently whereas emerge could :) But then
I'm not saying emerge is better either. Hope you'll get the point.

-Larry



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