>>>>> "Uday" == Uday S Reddy <[email protected]> writes:
Uday> [email protected] writes: >> After way too many years to mention, I'm starting to think that >> viewmail is a dead project. I can't do elisp programming, so it's >> probably time to move to mutt as my CLI based mail reader. Uday> CLI = command line interface? Correct. Plain SSH session to my main home machine. But I also read via iPhone, though I hate the lack of sorting/searching tools. Uday> I agree it is unlikely that VM will last long. I don't know when Uday> it will die. Probably when new RfC's will come along and we may Uday> not have the energy to process the new kinds of messages. But, Uday> at the moment, it seems to work fine. In my case, it's probably mostly because I generally like a TTY session without graphics. >> Well... it's a pain visiting IMAP vs plain folders, so now I have two >> sets of key bindings in message mode: >> >> v = visit folder >> i = visit IMAP folder >> w = save to IMAP folder >> s = save to folder >> >> which is just clunky. Uday> My own key bindings are: Uday> M-x imap = visit IMAP folder Uday> i = save to IMAP folder Uday> We could integrate the name space so that we could use one set of key Uday> bindings. But would you really want to type something like Uday> s imap://myaccount@thatserver/folder God no! But maybe we could do s/S for regular/IMAP save? And v/V for visit regular/IMAP folder? But no, that then breaks the virtual folder commands. >> HTML email is just painful, esp since I like to hit 't' to expose the >> message headers, but now that's broken for html emails unless I do Shift-d >> a few times to change the message decoding. Uday> This is a valid point. I think you are using emacs-w3m? Uday> emacs-w3m rebinds the keys so that 't' means something else. But Uday> if you move into the headers area, there the VM key bindings Uday> still work. That would explain it. Uday> I will see what can be done about adjusting the emacs-w3m key bindings. Uday> There is a bug report about it: Uday> https://bugs.launchpad.net/vm/+bug/912531 Uday> but I have forgotten the details now. I will see if I can resurrect this. I hope it's easy enough to fix. What I really want to do is keep a log of all the keybindings I use, so I can prioritize the ones I'd like to (maybe) migrate to mutt or some other MUA. I do hate writing all this and getting this discussion going, because VM has served my needs for over 20 years now, which is just amazing! >> I'm sure this is all fixable, but not with my (total lack of) elisp >> skills. Uday> Learning elisp itself is not a big deal, but we are dealing with many Uday> different tools here and we have to know what is where and how to deal with Uday> each. That isn't easy. I don't think this problem will go away with any Uday> other mail client you switch to either. Believe me, (e)lisp is not a language that I can work in. I still shudder from my college course in Lisp all those years ago. This is my personal reason for not being able to contribute more to a tool I love to use, and the emacs key bindings my fingers know and use all the time.
