>>>>> "Göran" == Göran Uddeborg <[email protected]> writes:
Hi all, Glad to have helped spark a conversation about keeping VM going. My problem (under Debian Bookworm, emacs 28.2, vm-8.2.0b, w3m to display HTML inline inside SSH connections) is that when I hover over a large link, the summary buffer at the bottom doesn't expand to show the whole URL properly any more. It broke when I went from Debian 11. And the big problem with VM is the imap speed, it's just terribly slow (when compared to mutt) since I keep ym email on an IMAP server so I can read from both within VM (most of it!) and also from my cell phone when need be. Otherwise VM just works, which is amazing honestly. My elisp-fu is non-existent, I would need to spend months wrapping my brain around it and I doubt it will work. I might have more time this summer for testing, in spurts of course, but I'll be limited in coding support. Moving to git (anywhere!) so I can pull down test versions would be awesome. But even just someone rolling a 8.3.0a as an alpha release for testing collected patches would be great. Do we need/want to keep Xemacs compatibility? I'm starting to think we need to maybe trim cruft in a major way... but I'm not an XEmacs user. But I don't think XEmacs has been really touched in 10 years now. > Your challenge worked on me! :-) > I don't really personally mind Github myself, but I'm concerned about > scaring away any potential contributor. As I understand it, Gitlab is > less frowned upon; while not completely open it is at least open core. > At the same time, it has a lot of features one might want from a forg. > (Yes, magit works fine with Gitlab. :-) At least the things I use it > for when interacting with our local instance at work.) > So i created https://gitlab.com/emacs-vm/vm for the purpose. It is > currently just an empty repository. Does anyone have the tooling for > bzr→git migration readily available, or do we need to set it up? > [email protected] skrev: >> Just a quick note to say that the branch: >> bzr+ssh://[email protected]/~markd-kermodei/vm/vm-emacs-28/ >> configured, made and ran out of the box under 29.3. I've not checked >> the impact of Mark's other changes nor whether this includes or >> obviates Stefan's cleanups but we have a potential base to work >> from. If noone else steps up in a week I'll open a repo for this >> version and look to integrate existing patches. A warning that if I do >> this it will be github; that might stimulate others to offer to manage >> on their preferred host. >> Thanks again all for a wonderful tool. >> regards >> Peter >> > >> >However, I think whatever is left of the VM community needs to >> >figure out if we want to breath new life into VM or let it join >> >the crypt of yesterdays great software. >> > >> >Personally, I love VM, but the compatibility issues, as well as >> >not scaling to modern email volume, is increasingly problematic. >> >While I would be happy to be part of a community to resurrect >> >and modernize VM, I just don't have bandwidth to be developing >> >my own email client. >> > >> >If anyone is interested, lets start a conversation. VM is an >> >amazing pieces of software. We might be able to attract others >> >if we can seed a modern approach to collaborative development. >> > >> >Cheers >> >Mark >> > >> >Stefan Monnier via General discussion of VM mail reader >> <[email protected]> writes: >> >> > A naive attempt to clone from https://github.com/emacsorphanage/vm/ >> >> > and run failed. I've been running a version from the bzr repo under >> >> > 29.0.50. >> >> >> >> [ Hmm... 29.3 or the obsolete 29.0.50? ] >> >> >> >> > A few questions: >> >> > - Am I starting from the right repo or is there a more recent version? >> >> > - Are others running successfully in the case I'm trying? >> >> > - Does any of the experienced maintainers have a sense of how hard this >> will >> >> > be to fix? I'm willing to try it but would like an estimate of >> difficulty >> >> > and time. >> >> >> >> Check the latest thread in this mailing-list, under the subject >> >> >> >> vm, emacs 28.2 (debian), urls in minibuffer >> >> >> >> where I sent a "cleanup" patch to help get the code closer to modern >> >> ELisp. John Stoffel gave up on trying to make it work, but I don't >> >> think it's should be very hard. I don't use VM myself, but I'm quite >> >> experienced in fixing those kinds of things and would be glad to provide >> >> guidance. Maybe you can team with John? >> >> >> >> >> >> Stefan >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> -- >> Peter Rayner (he/him), Honorary Professorial Fellow, University of Melbourne >> mobile +61 402 752 379 >> zoom id 4431343191, join at >> <https://unimelb.zoom.us/j/4431343191?pwd=a1E5Z3JEOTRVQUJsaVdRbVUvR1QyZz09> >> mail-to: [email protected] >> google scholar: >> <https://scholar.google.com.au/citations?user=H3up71wAAAAJ&hl=en> >> I acknowledge the Traditional Custodians of the land on which I work, the >> Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation, and pay my respect to their Elders, >> past >> and present >> I am sending this email when convenient for me, please only respond when >> convenient for you
