I'm pretty sure the "Remerius Liessen" has a spliced or replaced neck, but
I'm not positive.  andy r

On 11/30/07, Alexander Batov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Andrew,
>
> As an update-correction to my yesterday's post where I mentioned (quote)
> The
> earliest guittars with watch keys by Preston can probably be dated by
> 1760s
> (end of quote), there is at least one EG in the V&A labelled "Remerius
> Liessen,1756" which is, according to the inscription in the display case,
> "an early example of the use of the 'watch-key tuning' mechanism". I do
> not
> remember what this instrument looks like but I will have a look on the
> next
> occasion; i.e. there is a possibility that the mechanism could be a later
> replacement. Another EG from the same collection, by "W.Gibson, 1765" has
> worm-gear tuners. So if the first one is not converted (the second is
> definitely genuine) then both instruments seem to predate the date of the
> quoted advertisement. This doesn't exclude of course that Hintz couldn't
> be
> an inventor of either of them or, indeed, both, but ...
>
> Alexander
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Andrew Rutherford
> To: Alexander Batov
> Cc: cittern list
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 3:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [CITTERN] Re: Preston tuner history
>
> Hi cittern people,
>
> The instrument maker and publisher John Frederick Hintz, in an
> advertisement
> in "The Public Advertiser", March 17th 1766, claims to have invented
> something that may be the watchkey tuning system (not to mention the
> instrument itself):  "...after many years Study and Application in
> endeavouring to bring this favourite instrument the Guittar (being the
> first
> Inventor) still to a greater perfection in regard to tuning and keeping
> the
> same in Tune, which has always been a principal Defect as well as
> inconvenient, has now found out, on a principal entirely new, several
> Methods, whereby it is much easier and exacter tuned, and also remains
> much
> longer in tune than any Method hitherto known."
>
> I got this passage from Lanie Graf at the Moravian Archives in
> Pennsylvania.
> She's studying Hintz and his relationship with the Moravian community in
> London (and America).  Peter Holman is also looking into this topic, I
> understand.
>
> andy rutherford
>
>
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