Dear group members, You are all correct with your observations about Pisador and the fourth course: it is the only specific reference to tuning both strings of the course to the same pitch. By the same token, the only reference to the tuning of both strings of one course is the reference to Fuenllana tuning the strings a third apart. I haven't got Bill Hearn's article in front of me, but I think we need to consider as much what isn't said by the authors. Milan, for example, always refers to each course in the singular as a "cuerda". He is clearly telling us that he regarded as the sound of each course to be one sound. I don't think he is telling us that we should have our vihuelas strung with single-string courses, but if he used octaves instead of unisons, then their role was certainly to enhance the qualities of the fundamental, and not to make it sound like an octave. So if you want to use octaves on your vihuelas, and want your instrument to sound in a way that Luis Milan might have approved of, I would recommend you try to match the strings so that the octave is imperceptible.
It is also narrow to draw conclusions about instrumental practice on the basis of the local standards of string making. We actually know very little about string making in Spain. I have read some documents from the 14th century that ally string makers with tanners, but other references to string making as a homespun cottage industry in the 16th century: one violero in Valladolid had strings made for him by a married couple in Burgos. But I have also found documents in Spain showing that they imported vihuela strings from Italy, France and the Low Countries. From this I can only conclude that there was sufficient interest in Spain in getting good strings for Spanish players and makers to go to great lengths to identify good strings abroad and organise their importation. Not too different to today, really. John On 9 Sep 2010, at 04:39 , Monica Hall wrote: I seem never to have replied to this. There does seem to be some evidence for unison stringing on the 4th courses of the vihuela in Pisador and Bermudo but that's all. In an paper in Estudios sobre la vihuela Mimmo Peruffo made an interesting point - that it is unlikely that the Spanish had discovered a way of making good gut bass strings which was unknown elsewhere in Europe. This would be as if they were driving round in motor cars whilst everyone else was in horse drawn carriages. I suppose it is possible that the Spanish were prepared to put up with the poor sound of low gut basses. But surely octave doubling was acceptable in the 16th and 17th century. Regards Monica ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Shepherd" <[1]mar...@luteshop.co.uk> To: "Vihuelalist" <[2]vihu...@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 2:53 PM Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Unisons in Italy was Re: Guitar stringing was Re: Bartolotti Videos performed by Lex Eisenhardt Thanks, Monica. So as far as the vihuela is concerned, we have evidence for a unison 4th course but no evidence at all about the 5th and 6th courses? The surviving music for vihuela dates from a time when the lute was commonly strung in octaves on courses 4-6, and from a string technology point of view there is therefore every reason to suppose that octaves were required. It seems to me that modern wound strings have made it too easy for us to assume that unisons were the norm for the vihuela. As I said, the presence of octaves on the lute seems to have been no barrier for those addicted to polyphonic intabulations, so the idea that the vihuela repertoire is dominated by such pieces is no argument in favour of unisons either. Best wishes, Martin Monica Hall wrote: The original article arguing for octave stringing was by Bill Hearn in LSA Quarterly, Aug. 1994. There was some correspondence between him and Donald Gill in LSA Quarterly Feb 1995, and May 1996. The other piece of evidence for unison stringing is from Bermudo who mentions that the 4-course guitar has octaves stringing in the 4th course like the "vihuela de Flandres" and by inference, he suggests that the vihuela did not. Monica ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Shepherd" <[3]mar...@luteshop.co.uk> To: "Lute List" <[4]l...@cs.dartmouth.edu>; "Vihuelalist" <[5]vihu...@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 7:37 AM Subject: [VIHUELA] Unisons in Italy was Re: Guitar stringing was Re: Bartolotti Videos performed by Lex Eisenhardt The main piece of evidence for unison stringing on the lute in late 16th century Italy is the statement (where? can anyone help? I think it's an English source) that Fabrizio Dentice introduced it. And does Vincenzo Galilei mention it? For what it's worth, Caravaggio's paintings seem to show unisons. The assumption of unison stringing for the vihuela, on the other hand, does seem to be just that (John Ward's 1955 PhD thesis), the only solid piece of evidence being Pisador's tuning instructions which imply a unison 4th course. There is an interesting article in LSAQ some years ago called something like "The shaky case for unison stringing on the vihuela" - sorry I can't remember the author or the year. Again, can someone provide the exact reference? Best wishes, Martin Martyn Hodgson wrote: Dear Jean-michel, Put a colon after 'octaves' as '......./*strung in octaves: outside Italy........*/' - I think you'll see what I meant.... I didn't think the meaning wasn't obvious but I'm sorry if you were momentarily misled. As you'll see I do, of course, allow the earlier Italian lute in octave tuning. But, interestingly and to extend this thread a little, for the later 16th century Italian repertoire do we really know how the lute was expected to be strung? I'm not sure that octaves on 4th and 5th as well as the 6th (and lower) courses were still general by, say the 1570s. Do you? Certainly the 17th century lute doesn't generally seem to have had octaves on the 4th and 5th (people like Piccinnini, Melli and Santino Garsi), so when did the change take place? [Martin, have you done anything on this?] MH --- On *Tue, 31/8/10, jean-michel Catherinot /<[6]jeanmichel.catheri...@yahoo.com>/* wrote: From: jean-michel Catherinot <[7]jeanmichel.catheri...@yahoo.com> Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitar stringing was Re: Bartolotti Videos performed by Lex Eisenhardt To: "Vihuelalist" <[8]vihu...@cs.dartmouth.edu>, "Lute List" <[9]l...@cs.dartmouth.edu>, "Martin Shepherd" <[10]mar...@luteshop.co.uk>, "Martyn Hodgson" <[11]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Tuesday, 31 August, 2010, 15:03 Except le Roy 's information about neapolitan school (with no octaves), I'm not aware of an italian general habit of stringing without octaves on the lute! And most of lutenists today play high Renaissance lute music with plain octave stringing (6 to 4) as far as I know. On the vihuela, no octave stringing began with Emilio Pujol, based only on an ambiguous tuning chart in Pisador. So... --- En date de : Mar 31.8.10, Martyn Hodgson <[12]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk <[13]http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=hodgsonmar...@yaho o.co.uk>> a ecrit : De: Martyn Hodgson <[14]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk <[15]http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=hodgsonmar...@yaho o.co.uk>> Objet: [VIHUELA] Guitar stringing was Re: Bartolotti Videos performed by Lex Eisenhardt A: "Vihuelalist" <[16]vihu...@cs.dartmouth.edu <[17]http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vihu...@cs.dartmou th.edu>>, "Lute List" <[18]l...@cs.dartmouth.edu <[19]http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=l...@cs.dartmouth. edu>>, "Martin Shepherd" <[20]mar...@luteshop.co.uk <[21]http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mar...@luteshop.co .uk>> Date: Mardi 31 aout 2010, 12h34 And, of course, in the heyday of the 5 course guitar, the lute was always strung in octaves outside Italy the 'baroque' lute (generally in Dm tuning); in Italy in the old tuning but still octaves on the basses. But, interestingly and with relevance, we know that some of the French 'Old Ones' removed the lower string from the lowest octave pair as being too intrusive (Burwell, c1670 'That eleventh string being alone ...... The Lute-masters have taken away that great string because the sound of it is too big.....). In short they sacrificied the lower rather than the upper octave of the pair - once again evidence that we need to be very careful about assuming that a 'complete' and, to some modern thinking, a more logical specification was always what they aimed for. As said before, much of the reason for introducing the added basses was not simply (or just) to 'improve' the bass register but was also to free the left hand for work higher up the fingerboard. Mace(1676) certainly makes a great deal of this in his essay on 'The LUTE made Easie' as making playing 'become Easie' (no need for such difficult left hand fingerings) and, of course, the technique became very widely used later and indeed was common practice by Weiss and other 18th century lutenists. MH --- On Tue, 31/8/10, Martin Shepherd <[1]mar...@luteshop.co.uk <[22]http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mar...@luteshop.co .uk>> wrote: From: Martin Shepherd <[2]mar...@luteshop.co.uk <[23]http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mar...@luteshop.co .uk>> Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Bartolotti Videos performed by Lex Eisenhardt To: "Vihuelalist" <[3]vihu...@cs.dartmouth.edu <[24]http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vihu...@cs.dartmou th.edu>>, "Lute List" <[4]l...@cs.dartmouth.edu <[25]http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=l...@cs.dartmouth. edu>> Date: Tuesday, 31 August, 2010, 9:46 Hi All, Just to give a lutenist's perspective (and copying to the lute list as it might be of interest there): For much of the 16th century lutes were routinely strung with octaves on courses 4-6. Almost equally routinely, the upper octaves are ignored as far as the counterpoint is concerned - lutenists making intabulations (with a few notable exceptions) just intabulated the voice parts literally. The degree to which the upper octave can be heard depends on many things, but perhaps most of all the skill of the player - mostly, you want the octave to be audible but not too strong as it is really there to "colour" the sound, adding some upper partials to the sound of the gut basses. The re-entrant tuning of the guitar is another kettle of fish.... Just as an aside, Dowland's remarks on octaves in Varietie of Lute Lessons (1610) have been widely misunderstood, even though what he writes is perfectly clear. He says that octaves were used more in England than elsewhere, so there is some justification (and quite a bit of evidence from the music itself) for using octaves even up to the 4th course in the music of Cutting, John Johnson, Holborne, and anyone else active in the 1580s and 90s (except possibly Ferrabosco, since he probably brought his Italian habits with him!). Oh and of course Barley's book of 1597 specifies octaves on courses 4-6, and although he borrowed much of his material from Le Roy (1568) he obviously thought it was still common practice. Best wishes, Martin Monica Hall wrote: > Yes - that is certainly the case. However with baroque guitar music the octaves are intermittent rather than continuous. The other point is that because of the way that the guitar is strung one tends to hear the upper notes rather than the lower ones and because the instrument has a small compass the upper notes on the lower courses overlap with the notes on the upper courses. You get the same effect with octave stringing on the third course. It is not that one voice in the counterpoint is being duplicated. This is rather different from playing passages in octaves on the piano or harpsichord - where there wont be the same overlapping. On the organ it is possible to play different parts on different manuals but this raises quite different issues from the guitar. > > The point I was making about the vihuela is relevant here too because one of the arguments put forward in favour of unison stringing is that the individual contrapuntal lines will be compromised by the high octave strings. In my experience not many lutenists use octave stringing even for the earlier repertoire but when they do the effect this has on the music is very noticeable and quite difficult to adapt to. And as far as I am aware, they don't put the high octave string on the thumb side of a course. > > Monica > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "[1][5]michael.f...@notesinc.com <[26]http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=michael.f...@notes Inc.com>" <[2][6]michael.f...@notesinc.com <[27]http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=michael.f...@notes inc.com>> > To: "'Lex Eisenhardt'" <[3][7]eisenha...@planet.nl <[28]http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=eisenha...@planet. nl>>; "'Vihuelalist'" <[4][8]vihu...@cs.dartmouth.edu <[29]http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vihu...@cs.dartmou th.edu>> > Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 11:36 PM > Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Bartolotti Videos performed by Lex Eisenhardt > > >> Dear List, >> >> At this point I feel compelled to say something about "parallel octaves." If >> parallel octaves are continuous, they cease to be "parallel octaves" and >> become "orchestration" (e.g., organ or harpsichord stops). The parallel >> octaves that get red marks in a theory or counterpoint class are between two >> adjacent consonances and are usually part of a 3- or 4-voice texture. >> Sometimes they are "hidden octaves": the same thing but with an intervening >> note in one of the voices. >> >> Sorry for the lecture. >> >> Mike >> >> ________________________ >> >> Michael Fink >> [5][9]michael.f...@notesinc.com <[30]http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=michael.f...@notes inc.com> >> ________________________ >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [6][10]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <[31]http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lute-...@cs.dartmo uth.edu> [mailto:[7][11]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <[32]http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lute-...@cs.dartmo uth.edu>] On Behalf >> Of Lex Eisenhardt >> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 1:15 PM >> To: Vihuelalist >> Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Bartolotti Videos performed by Lex Eisenhardt >> >> >>> Today the >>> vihuela is usually tuned in unison throughout but this may not have >>> been so in the 16^th century. If the 5^th and 6^th courses were octave >>> strung this might alter our perceptions of the music. >> >> But to what extent? Early lutes had octaves, sometimes even on the 4th >> course. Certain organ stops have octaves too. >> The whole problem seems to be how you reconstruct the polyphony in your >> mind. >> The high octaves of the five-course guitar tend to be prominent indeed >> (although it depends also on how you touch them, and the string tension, and >> >> even on how they relate in height to the bourdon, at the bridge) but I >> happen to think that it's not a matter of measuring decibels in the first >> place. >> >>> >>> The baroque guitar has nothing in common with the classical guitar. >> >> Some people seem to shiver at the idea... >> >> >>> most of the time it is difficult to hear the bourdon on the fifth >>> course because all it is doing is creating parallel octaves in which >>> the upper part is more audible. >> >> For some listeners there are parallel octaves, for others the bass becomes >> brighter and stronger, as a result of the blending of the overtones of the >> two strings, like on the lute or the organ (the latter has of course no >> strings). >> >> >>> In the Sarabande the bass line falls a >>> 7th at the cadence following the double bar - this big chord I comes >>> out of nowhere! >> >> I'm afraid that's what big chords do. It is guitar music after all, in this >> funny mixed battuto-pizzicato style. >> >> >>> Paradoxically the bourdon on the fourth often sounds >>> to me more prominent especially in odd places in the campanellas. >> >> Maybe it's not a paradox, since there are more notes on the 4th course >> involved. It seems to be generally accepted that the bourdon on the 4th >> course is needed with Bartolotti, so this happens when you play what the >> tablature says. >> In all 5 clips there are only 2 campanela runs, by the way, they are both in >> >> the prelude. The section high up the neck in the courante, for instance, >> could be misleading, it is just a 'regular' texture. >> >> >>> But neither is there any evidence that Italians thought of the guitar >>> as having seven strings rather than five and that used the separate >>> strings of the fourth and fifth courses independently as a matter of >>> course. >> >> Again, it is not so much a matter of using the separate strings >> independently, but using your ears (and therefore also your hands) in a more >> >> varied way. Or should we believe that the tablature obliges you to always >> play the two strings (the octave and the bourdon) in perfect balance? (This >> would then of course also apply for the 4th course bourdon) >> >> >>> It is also unfair to suggest that other people play the music >>> the way that they do because it is fashionable and that they havent >>> given careful thought to what they are doing. >> >> Maybe. All the heavyly syncopated afterbeat strumming (and percussion) >> doesn't sound very 17th century to me. Wouldn't it be on purpose, as a >> 'cross-over'? >> >> Lex >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> [8][12]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html <[33]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html> >> >> >> > > -- References 1. [13]http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=michael.f...@notesi nc. com 2. [14]http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=michael.f...@notesi nc. com 3. [15]http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=eisenha...@planet.n l 4. [16]http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vihu...@cs.dartmout h.e du 5. [17]http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=michael.f...@notesi nc. com 6. [18]http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lute-...@cs.dartmou th. edu 7. [19]http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lute-...@cs.dartmou th. edu 8. 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