Dear Eugene,
I also find Strizich more complicated than necessary and really only
useful for academics interested in the period guitar who don't actually
play the instrument - are there any?
And I agree with what you're saying below: ie to transcribe the
tablature into staff notation by pretending that the 4th and 5th
courses have both strings at the lower octave. This way there's much
less room for ambiguity and the music will sound different depending on
which particular tuning arrangement an individual player chooses to
employ - in fact, a sort of staff notation tablature....
regards,
Martyn
--- On Wed, 21/11/12, Braig, Eugene <brai...@osu.edu> wrote:
From: Braig, Eugene <brai...@osu.edu>
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: de Visee Chaconne in a minor to the guitar?
To: "Monica Hall" <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>
Cc: "Vihuelalist" <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Date: Wednesday, 21 November, 2012, 21:18
Indeed. I'm in the day job office and can't refer directly, but I seem
to remember spots/chords where it's not clear to which course/string
the symbol applied. Feel free to correct me if this is not the case.
Strizich is a somewhat useful...but also a somewhat odd effort.
Personally, I feel de Visee is one of those few 5-course characters who
loses almost nothing in use of the low A throughout. If transcribing
de Visee to modern notation, I'd almost rather assume a typical modern
instrument, with notes along the fifth notated as though they are along
an A, as Grimes did in his guitar transcriptions for good ol' Mel Bay,
de Visee included.
Best,
Eugene
-----Original Message-----
From: [1]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
[mailto:[2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Monica Hall
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 3:39 PM
To: Braig, Eugene
Cc: Vihuelalist
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: de Visee Chaconne in a minor to the guitar?
Well - Strizich does indicate which course the notes are on with a
little figure in a circle below the stave but you need a magnifying
glass to read them. e.g. in the first bar the c is played on the 5th
course and the a on
the 3rd. He also puts in zeros to indicate open courses e.g. on line
3 in
the third bar the zeros over the a and b natural indicate that they are
played on the open 5th and 2nd courses.
It does highlight how difficult it is to transcribe baroque guitar
music coherantly.
Monica
Monica
----- Original Message -----
From: "Braig, Eugene" <[3]brai...@osu.edu>
To: "Vihuelalist" <[4]vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 7:41 PM
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: de Visee Chaconne in a minor to the guitar?
>A little late to this chat, but I find the Strizich transcription a
bit
>unwieldy in notating notes along the reentrant a at pitch. It's just
hard
>to know whether notes in the relevant range belong along the a, g, or
b
>string.
>
> Best,
> Eugene
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [5]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
[mailto:[6]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On
> Behalf Of Monica Hall
> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 2:33 PM
> To: [7]ar...@student.matnat.uio.no
> Cc: Vihuelalist
> Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: de Visee Chaconne in a minor to the guitar?
>
> A transcription of it is also included in Robert Strizich's edition
of De
> Visee's complete works published by Heugel in1969.
>
> Monica
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[8]ar...@student.matnat.uio.no>
> To: "Monica Hall" <[9]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>
> Cc: "Arto Wikla" <[10]wi...@cs.helsinki.fi>; "Vihuelalist"
> <[11]vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>
> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 5:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: de Visee Chaconne in a minor to the
guitar?
>
>
>> It has also been recorded by Rafael Andia. But I don't really like
the
>> recording...
>>
>> mvh
>> Are
>>
>>> Dear Arto
>>>
>>> There is a guitar version of this chaconne - in D minor - in the
huge
>>> manuscript F.Pn Res. F. 844. It is on p.237.
>>>
>>> Someone - Stuart I think - pointed out that you can download an
image of
>>> the
>>> whole of this ms. from the Bib. Nat. site.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Monica
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Arto Wikla" <[12]wi...@cs.helsinki.fi>
>>> To: "Vihuelalist" <[13]vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 9:22 PM
>>> Subject: [VIHUELA] de Visee Chaconne in a minor to the guitar?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Dear "flat back" lutenists,
>>>>
>>>> My try on de Visee's Chaconne in A minor is - as I told - is in
>>>>
>>>>> [14]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqHHPeLMNYU&feature=youtu.be
>>>>> [15]http://vimeo.com/53172045
>>>>
>>>> As I said, there is the original(?) theorbo version of this
d-minor
>>>> lute
>>>> version, but I have a strong memory image that there is also a
version
>>>> to the 5 course guitar of this Chaconne. Is it there? Monica?
Other
>>>> specialists?
>>>>
>>>> best,
>>>>
>>>> Arto
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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