That sums it up very nicely. Both the list and the Lake Konstanz meeting were opportunities for guitar enthusiasts to get together to discuss their interests. No need for any peer reviewing or the like.

Monica

----- Original Message ----- From: "Braig, Eugene" <brai...@osu.edu>
To: "Vihuela Dmth" <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 10:01 PM
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitar Summit


The word " s u b s c r i b e r " ended up robot flagging my last note for redirection. Here it is again with the offending word deleted.

E


-----Original Message-----
From: Braig, Eugene
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 4:59 PM
To: Vihuela Dmth
Subject: RE: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitar Summit

I think more people are reading more into this thing than they should. While many contributors coincide, the Lake Konstanz Guitar Research Meeting operated independently of the Topica Guitar Summit. You can see a concise summary of what the Lake Konstanz/Constance meeting is at the bottom this GFA page: http://www.guitarfoundation.org/?ArchForums . . . as well as the organizers' own Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/131072740286508/. I've never managed to attend the Lake Konstanz meeting in person.

The "Guitar Summit" was a discussion forum (not unlike the present suite of Dartmouth lute lists) that was hosted by Topica beginning in 2007. However, it went through earlier incarnations hosted by a couple different online services (most notably as the "Classical Guitar History List") that slightly predate the first Lake Konstanz meeting. I have been a spotty contributor to each iteration of the discussion fora/listservs since 2005. When I was active there, there was a great deal of discussion centered on transitional periods at either end of the 19th c. Yes, Matanya Ophee served as an organizing hub for these listservs; his contributions to and prominent voice in this particular arena are hard to deny, whatever your opinion of them are. Still, at its core, the "summit" was really only a listserv of guitar geeks (like me), scholars, and professional performers who liked to ask interesting questions of a collective body of knowledge (I tended to do more asking than ans!
wering).

Best,
Eugene


-----Original Message-----
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of jelmaa
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:43 PM
To: Martyn Hodgson
Cc: Vihuela Dmth
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitar Summit

Hi Martin and others,

No, the papers are not peer reviewed and not published by the organizers, but I know many of them end up in journals later through the efforts of the individual researchers. A list of speakers and subjects is published though (I believe). You should really contact Andreas about that if you want to know more.

Best, Jelma


On Jun 24, 2014, at 17:26 , Martyn Hodgson wrote:

  Thank you Jelma.
  Do you know if this 'Summit' ever publish any of these papers or are
  they available as downloads? Were they peer reviewed?
  regards
  Martyn
    __________________________________________________________________

  From: Jelma van Amersfoort <jel...@gmail.com>
  To: Lex Eisenhardt <eisenha...@planet.nl>
  Cc: Vihuela Dmth <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>
  Sent: Tuesday, 24 June 2014, 11:31
  Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitar Summit
    Dear all,
    A
    "Lake Konstanz" is a bi-annual international conference on
    guitar-related research, historical and otherwise. It was established
    in 2007 by Gerhard Penn and Andreas Stevens.A The next meeting is in
    2015.
    A
    I was there last year and presented a paper on guitar songs by the
    composer Pauline Duchambge (1776-1858). There were speakers from many
    different countries and backgrounds, it was quite interesting and
  fun.
    As Lex Eisenhardt mentioned, four or five of the people who recently
    published in Early Music were there as well, and Matanya Ophee too.
    A
    If any of you want to present or just listen it is best to approach
    Andreas or Gerhard with a proposal. They are quite keen to involve
  more
    researchers. I believe there is no website, but there is a rather
    active facebook page.
    ([1][1]https://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/131072740286508/)
    A
    Best, Jelma van Amersfoort
    A
    A
    On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Lex Eisenhardt
    <[2][2]eisenha...@planet.nl> wrote:
      Some of you may have seen the 'guitar issues' of Early Music (41/4
      A and
      42/1). Some of the authors lectured at the 'Lake Konstanz' (Summit)
      meetings.
      -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
      Van: [3][3]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
      [mailto:[4][4]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Namens
      WALSH STUART
      Verzonden: dinsdag 24 juni 2014 11:54
      Aan: Martyn Hodgson; Vihuela Dmth
      Onderwerp: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitar Summit
    On 24/06/2014 09:25, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
A  A  ----- Forwarded Message -----
A  A  From: Martyn Hodgson <[5][5]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> A  A
To: Monica Hall <[6][6]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> A  A  Sent: Tuesday, 24
June 2014, 7:26 A  A  Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitar Summit A  A
Thanks for this.
A  A  I was intrigued by the use of the word 'summit' which implied
    some
    sort
A  A  of self-proclaimed central authority!
    I think that would be about right. Surrounded by worshippers.
But from what you write, it seems
A  A  to be/have been more of a social event....
A  A  Martyn
A  A  A
    __________________________________________________________________

A  A  From: Monica Hall <[7][7]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> A  A  To:
Martyn Hodgson <[8][8]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> A  A  Cc:
Vihuelalist <[9][9]vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> A  A  Sent: Monday, 23
June 2014, 19:29 A  A  Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitar Summit A  A
Well it was started a few years ago under the auspices of
    Matanya
A  A  Ophee.
A  A  Most of the people on it were continental - i.e. from
  Germany,
    and
    such
A  A  like
A  A  places. A They hold/held a summit meeting in Switzerland
  every
    two
A  A  years.
A  A  The last one was in 2012 I think.
A  A  There used to be a discussion list but messages I have sent
    have not
A  A  got
A  A  through and I haven't received any for ages.
A  A  Monica
A  A  ----- Original Message -----
A  A  From: "Martyn Hodgson" <[1][10][10]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk>
A  A  To: "Monica Hall" <[2][11][11]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>;
  "Vihuelalist"
A  A  <[3][12][12]vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>
A  A  Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 6:37 PM A  A  Subject: [VIHUELA]
Re: Guitar Summit A  A  > A To be frank Monica, I've never heard of
it! A What is/was
    it
    supposed
A  A  to
A  A  > A do?
A  A  > A Martyn
A  A  >
    __________________________________________________________________
A  A  >
A  A  > A From: Monica Hall <[4][13][13]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>
A  A  > A To: Vihuelalist <[5][14][14]vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>
A  A  > A Sent: Monday, 23 June 2014, 15:30 A  A  > A Subject:
[VIHUELA] Guitar Summit A  A  > A  A I just wondered whether anyone
else on this list is on
    the Guitar
A  A  > A  A Summit list and if so whether they ever get any
    messages. A I
A  A  haven't
A  A  > A  A had any for months and was wondering whether it is
    defunct or
A  A  whether
A  A  > A I
A  A  > A  A have been struck off!
A  A  > A  A Thanks to all
A  A  > A  A Monica
A  A  > A  A --
A  A  > A To get on or off this list see list information at A  A  >
    A
  [1][6][15][15]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
A  A  >
A  A  > A --
A  A  >
A  A  > References
A  A  >
A  A  > A 1.
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A  A  >

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