Thank you Matthew,
Yes, I'd seen Robert Barto's exploration of the technique and also the
video close up he posted in 2016 using dedillo. In fact, it was this
single course finger 'strummimng' sort of technique which I'd also,
with mixed success, been trying to use and which led me to consider
other ways of index finger only plucking.
The use of the index finger, steadied by the thumb, also seems to me to
be, perhaps, related to the earlier plectrum technique where the
movement is principally from the wrist rather than the finger alone
(and indeed close to thumb-under play). Further, dedillo only seems to
be used with single line running passages where thumb use is not
required. Accordingly I thought that using a wrist action (and
index/thumb plectrum) might have rather firmer historical roots - but,
of course, all mere speculation since, as far as I can see, the Old
Ones tell us little of the minutae of the dedillo stroke.
From: Matthew Daillie <dail...@club-internet.fr>
To: Martyn Hodgson <hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: Lute List <l...@cs.dartmouth.edu>; Vihuela Dmth
Sent: Monday, 10 July 2017, 9:45
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Vihuela technique: dos dedos and dedillo
You might want to check Robert Barto's articles in the LSA Quarterly
and his recent workshops on dedillo.
> On Jul 9, 2017, at 17:04, Martyn Hodgson
> Reading the English language summary (in Lute News 117) of the early
> journals of the Sociedad de la Vihuela 'Hispanica Lyra', I was
> again struck by the different right hand plucking techniques
> reasonably common and widespread in sixteenth century Spain.
> Principally the use of two right hand digits (either the first and
> second fingers or the thumb and first finger) ie dos dedos; or the
> of just the index finger to strike the string ie dedillo.
> Over the years I have, unsucessfully, tried to use a sort of free
> stroke dedillo (similar the index finger strumming but just on one
> course) but find it very tricky to control the stroke especially on
> runs across different courses. I recently tried steadying the index
> with the thumb and this seems to work a lot better - much increased
> control and accuracy. Indeed, the position is not dissimilar to
> a plectrum between the thumb and first finger - but without actually
> having a plectrum which place is taken by the index finger.
> I seem to recall that this technique of steadfying the index with
> thumb when playing dedillo was mentioned in some other modern
> and would be grateful for a reference - or my memory may be playing
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