---------------------------------------- > Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 22:07:22 +0200 > Subject: Routing stuff (was: [Viking-devel] Patches to fix map drag and drop > + add etag implementation) > From: guilhem.bonnefi...@gmail.com > To: rw_nor...@hotmail.com > CC: viking-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > 2010/8/9 Robert Norris : >> I recently stopped using viking for route planning, finding >> www.bikehike.co.uk much more useful (especially being in the UK!). > > Can you give us more details about features missing in viking for a > good routing software?
As I mentioned in another post, being able to export to file / directly upload a *route* into the GPS. I may address this myself.... > > Personnally, I have some ideas about routing stuff in viking. > First of all, I think we have to generalize the code in order to use > different routing services (like I did for the "Go to" feature). Agreed. > Next, I don't feel the "magic scisor" really user friendly nor > intuitive (some friends of mine were surprised when I explain them > what is this feature). So, I imagined some other way to prepare the > request for a generic "routing service". One of them can be: Agreed, this have long been on my list of things to do. I think the magic scissors is completely the wrong metaphor for a start. It took me ages to work out what it's meant to do, and often spits out tonnes of 'unordered' and long named waypoints (which screws up the panel view). Waypoints are 'handily' sorted alphabetically by default (unless one turns off this compilation feature), but these list of TIME ORDERED directions get alphabetically sorted - Doh! Calling it 'Route Planner' or 'Route Finder' or as you suggest 'Routing Service' would be fine. Changing the icon to something better would better too eg GTK_STOCK_FIND_REPLACE http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/stable/gtk-Stock-Items.html#GTK-STOCK-FIND-AND-REPLACE:CAPS Here the idea is finding something (the zoom/magnifier) and it gives a list of directions (the pen replace bit). ATM these services only go via roads. Most of my trips are walking, mountain biking and road cycling (using quiet roads). If the service supports it (Google has 'walking' but it just avoids main roads) I would want to be control the type of route. On/off road / road types / path / footpath / cycleways / etc. Anyway most of my routes are circular, generally going back to my car / or train station after getting out into the countryside. One could try to auto-generate a circular route to give a route of desired length - For a particular start point / somewhere in this area ; I want to go for about a 5 mile walk or a 35 bike ride etc... ; I want to go via these specified places/points (i.e points of interest - a viewpoint, a pub, a shop, whatever) OK it's a bit clever but the sorts of things OSM could be able to answer, as that's how I plan a day trip. Multi day trips are different, as these may not return to the beginning, having a destination in mind - but often following a larger 'real' route, such as walking Hadrian's Wall. Obviously, getting directions for car journeys is another use case. > 1) create a track starting at your starting point and ending at your > destination > 2) eventually, add trackpoints if you need to go through somel checkpoints > 2) use a "filter" to request a real route using these checkpoints. > 3) you obtain the real route as a new track The above would be a start. (not that I'd use it) > As editing track is not really simple (at least nowadays), perhaps can > we use waypoints instead: > 1) creat as many waypoints as needed > 2) order them by name > 3) use a filter on the TRW layer to request a route > 4) you obtain the real route as a new track > > These are my ideas for this feature. Fine. It would be interesting to find out what people use Viking for. I think Viking needs to address things that JOSM, merkaator, tangoGPS and others aren't - for me this means primarily the multi track storing aspect. Hence I can plan to places where I haven't been before. OK that's enough emails for today. > -- > Guilhem BONNEFILLE > -=- JID: gu...@im.apinc.org MSN: guilhem_bonnefi...@hotmail.com > -=- mailto:guilhem.bonnefi...@gmail.com > -=- http://nathguil.free.fr/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This SF.net email is sponsored by Make an app they can't live without Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev _______________________________________________ Viking-devel mailing list Viking-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/viking-devel Viking home page: http://viking.sf.net/
