Hi Matthias,

Thanks for taking time to keep us informed of this matter.

2011/10/30 Matthias Meißer <matthias.meis...@uni-rostock.de>:
> During the past weeks OSM had massive server problems, cause a lot
> of Apps embedded our webmap. For that reason we had to block the most
> popular applications [1] cause they simply violate our tiles usage
> policy [2].
> Now I did some visualisations/compare with the most current logs and
> it turns out that Viking is again under the Top 30 Apps.
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/!i!/diary/15190
>
> You know our project is about creating a free worldmap (so collecting
> geoinformations) and not to deploy a full featured webmap directly for
> everyone  as Google Maps does. All our server infrastructure is
> sponsored and administrated by just a few volunteers, so we have a
> lack of every kind of resources to act as a big service.
>
> So can you please use MapQuest or Cloudmade tiles instead and check
> again your tool against the policies?
>
> [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Blocked_applications
> [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tile_usage_policy

Yes, due to my own wrong understanding, current release of viking do
not follow policies. But, a next release should change the default and
heavily reduce the load over servers. See commit
7965485d76adfecbbec710d6e9a3ea8717934ec4
http://viking.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=viking/viking;a=commit;h=7965485d76adfecbbec710d6e9a3ea8717934ec4

Technically, current viking try to use an If-modified HTTP header
flag. But the check can be done many times per minutes. We plan to
extend this timeout. As suggested, we will use the 7 days timeout you
require for OpenStreetMap servers.

Please, note that viking already supports MapQuest. We can try to push
MapQuest on top, but user will still be free to use OSM tiles. Do you
have any suggestion about a comment on the label for OSM related
servers? Perhaps "OpenStreetMap (for contributors)" ?


As a conlusion, please, do not filter viking. I know it is a tool used
by many OSM contributors. If you really need to apply restrictions to
viking, please, use an evolved filter that match on version before
1.2.1 in order to allow full acces for next release.
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